Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 472

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Chiefspants · 07-14-2013, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

I never believed in curses but the Kansas City Royals have to be the closest thing.

I've called it the Denkinger Curse for a while.

GloryDayz · 07-14-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

I never believed in curses but the Kansas City Royals have to be the closest thing.

It's a self-induced curse called the Hunt-Glass curse...

What's more confounding is how one city could be so unlucky as to have THOSE TWO family own our major teams...

One has to wonder what might be different if they had to actually live in the city where their teams are.... By all means the homers for those two families will point out that A) there is no such rule and they will also B) try to indicate that it wouldn't matter.

Oh well, I'm sure with attitudes like that we'll keep getting more of the same...

Sure-Oz · 07-14-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Lincecum threw what, 148 pitches? That's a huge huge risk though....

Incredibly stupid by the Giants...he has been pitching better lately. I'll be shocked if he is not shelled on his next turn

Ceej · 07-14-2013, 08:19 AM

Well, looks like MU fans and KU fans can start hating each other again.

You ****ing dickheads!!

GloryDayz · 07-14-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Incredibly stupid by the Giants...he has been pitching better lately. I'll be shocked if he is not shelled on his next turn

BlackHelicopters · 07-14-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

It's a self-induced curse called the Hunt-Glass curse...

What's more confounding is how one city could be so unlucky as to have THOSE TWO family own our major teams...

One has to wonder what might be different if they had to actually live in the city where their teams are.... By no means will the homers for those two families point out that A) there is no such rule, they will also B) try to indicate that it wouldn't matter.

Oh well, I'm sure with attitudes like that we'll keep getting more of the same...

I lived the Blessed Kaufman days, but have a much greater appreciation now. Baseball needs fiscal sanity. This would help some. Being invested in your city does matter. No way glASS feels the torment day to day. Dude doesn't care.

GloryDayz · 07-14-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

I lived the Blessed Kaufman days, but have a much greater appreciation now. Baseball needs fiscal sanity. This would help some. Being invested in your city does matter. No way glASS feels the torment day to day. Dude doesn't care.

If there's one thing I do think glASS is trying to do that's right for the game it's to bring fiscal sense (equality...) to the sport. Granted, he's doing little more than letting one team fail badly and hoping, someday, the world cares, but 9 out of 10 lawyers will agree that in the legal sense of the word it is "something." It's stupid, it's ridiculous, and it won't work, but it's as much has his greedy ass is willing to do to fix a very broken system.

If there's one other thing he's "doing", I'd say that keeping inept people in key positions and allowing them (not putting any pressure on them until it's too late) to make obviously bad decisions to allow/ensure the team keep failing.

He sees himself as a visionary, a revolutionary thinker of sorts, a game changer......and won't ever change as long as that kind of coin keeps rolling into his account.

Sure-Oz · 07-14-2013, 08:45 AM

Bitching about Glass is a waste at this point...he will never sell the royals and we are stuck with him as fans. Thing is, if GMDM made the right decisions with the money that has been freed up and on the farm this wouldnt be an issue. fact is GMDM is the sole reason the Royals suck to this point. Glass hired the 'up and coming' star GM and opened his wallet a bit....it's time for GMDM to go and let someone else try this with the same amount of $$$ to spend.

GloryDayz · 07-14-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Bitching about Glass is a waste at this point...he will never sell the royals and we are stuck with him as fans. Thing is, if GMDM made the right decisions with the money that has been freed up and on the farm this wouldnt be an issue. fact is GMDM is the sole reason the Royals suck to this point. Glass hired the 'up and coming' star GM and opened his wallet a bit....it's time for GMDM to go and let someone else try this with the same amount of $$$ to spend.

If bitching about glASS is a waste, so too then is bitching about the Royals, GMDM, how GMDM spends money (which might be glASS's will), and any other coach or player in this organization.

glASS owns this train wreck, so if he's off limits so too should be his employees... And there's no way to be a local fan and not bitch, so it'll start with glASS and move through his ranks...

Al Bundy · 07-14-2013, 08:52 AM

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#Royals reinstate RHP Wade Davis from the Paternity Leave List, designate RHP J.C. Gutierrez for assignment.

stonedstooge · 07-14-2013, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles

Well, looks like MU fans and KU fans can start hating each other again.

You ****ing dickheads!!

SHUD UP BEAKER BREATH

WhawhaWhat · 07-14-2013, 08:54 AM

Royals Designate J.C. Gutierrez For Assignment on his 30th birthday. Quite the Royals thing to do. I imagine he'll get picked up though. His numbers this year haven't been bad.

Sure-Oz · 07-14-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

If bitching about glASS is a waste, so too then is bitching about the Royals, GMDM, how GMDM spends money (which might be glASS's will), and any other coach or player in this organization.

glASS owns this train wreck, so if he's off limits so too should be his employees... And there's no way to be a local fan and not bitch, so it'll start with glASS and move through his ranks...

Can't ****ing fire an owner though man? Glass is the WORST owner, trust me i know this...

This fanbase lives off of hope. Fact is that GMDM has done a crap job of making the best farm system in the majors into the A's of MLB, thats what the Royals should be.

Sure-Oz · 07-14-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Royals Designate J.C. Gutierrez For Assignment on his 30th birthday. Quite the Royals thing to do. I imagine he'll get picked up though. His numbers this year haven't been bad.

Non leverage situations, just like Hochy

Ceej · 07-14-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

SHUD UP BEAKER BREATH

ROT IN BLACK AND BABY POOP GREEN HELL!

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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