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Old 09-26-2013, 06:07 AM  
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Chiefs' offense: "one of the worst in the league, by nearly every measure"
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/9...chiefs-offense

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The Chiefs are actually 12th in the league in PPG, at 23.7. But if you take away the 14 points the defense is directly responsible for, that number drops to 19 PPG, which would be tied for 23rd - with the Raiders. The Chiefs are relying on the defense to score points, which isn't good. Defensive scoring is random and shouldn't be part of the game plan. They didn't need Tamba Hali's pick-6 to beat the Jaguars, but they did need Eric Berry's against the Eagles.

They also are just not moving the ball; their 333 yds/gm is 21st in the league and their 4.9 yds/play ranks 25th. "Well Kyle," you may ask, " if the Chiefs offense is so bad, how are they undefeated this year?" That's an excellent question, thank you for asking. The answer is that the defense and special teams are much, much better than we thought.
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The problem the Chiefs are having is getting to the Red Zone in the first place. They're 30th in yards per drive, with only Tampa Bay and Jacksonville behind them, and Cleveland directly in front of them (not good company to be in). This is a really, really bad offense. But here's the real kicker: the Chiefs' offense has the best starting field position in the NFL this year, and still can't score.
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The Chiefs average 17 yards per drive better field position than their opponents (ok, ok, 16.95), the best mark in the NFL (2nd table). Only two other teams average more than 10 yards better starting field position than their opponents (New England and Chicago). The Chiefs' average starting line of scrimmage (LOS) is their own 36.97 yard line (best in the NFL), while their opponents average starting LOS is their own 20.02 yard line (also best in the NFL). What all of that means is the Chiefs's offense is handed consistently great starting field position and can't do anything with it, then they let the special teams pin opponents deep in their own territory. The defense bails out the offense by not letting opponents move the ball, giving the offense the ball back with great starting field position. Lather, rinse, repeat.
There's a nice breakdown of our defense against philly over there as well:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/2...p-kelly-eagles

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I have to reiterate and emphasize just how much the Chiefs played man to man -- like a ton of it. And they have the secondary to handle it, unlike most teams in the NFL. Specifically, they matched up Sean Smith on Cooper a lot on the outside. If this had been a prize fight, Cooper's corner would have thrown in the towel somewhere around the middle of the second quarter. Smith owned him right up until the end of the game when he started cramping up. Cooper just couldn't shake him, especially on those aforementioned deep routes Kelly had him running all game.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:34 PM   #1246
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:38 PM   #1247
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Sometimes simple and straightforward gets the job done.
And, yeah. You have definitely been getting the job done.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:40 PM   #1248
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And, yeah. You have definitely been getting the job done.
He'll never win a Super Bowl. That's the crux, isn't it? And you say, "be happy with being respectable".

Yeah, that's a nice ride for a couple of seasons, then what?
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:47 PM   #1249
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He'll never win a Super Bowl. That's the crux, isn't it? And you say, "be happy with being respectable".

Yeah, that's a nice ride for a couple of seasons, then what?
Bray, Dumbass. GOD DAMN WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR NOODLE? WE HAVE BEEN OVER THIS.

I will enjoy owning your account, other than that, lets not converse. You are too stupid to live.
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Bray, Dumbass. GOD DAMN WHATS WRONG WITH YOUR NOODLE? WE HAVE BEEN OVER THIS.

I will enjoy owning your account, other than that, lets not converse. You are too stupid to live.
I knew you would go there. And you say "I'm" easy? Like a fiddle I play you.

As to Bray, as I can say is; you hope.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:53 PM   #1251
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What was the bet?
Under 3000 yards and Sweet Daddy Hate wins.

Over 3400 yards and beach tribe wins.

Winner owns losers sig and av. I may not have the exact yardage right but it was designed to make it likely Alex would fall in the gap in between, so he would either have to do really good or really poor for a winner to emerge.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:58 PM   #1252
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I knew you would go there. And you say "I'm" easy? Like a fiddle I play you.
We all know that is not true. Its just your scramble for a retort.

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As to Bray, as I can say is; you hope.
I hope?
Look at your av

So you are a
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:00 PM   #1253
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We all know that is not true. Its just your scramble for a retort.


I hope?
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Do you understand English, or are you just drunk again?
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:01 PM   #1254
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3400 yards is setting the bar high?
Yes. Alex posted 3144 in SF in 2011 and was on pace for 3330 in 2012. 3144 is his highest total to date. He played all 16 games in 2011 as well.

I do recall beach tribe and Daddy saying the bet was off in the event of injury but that was never detailed out. Injury to Smith or to Bowe or Charles or who? So the loser has an out clause there unless somebody can dig up the bet OP and they can agree on what constitutes an injury now before the loser can wiggle out.

But yes, 3400 would be an all time high for Alex so it wasn't very high but it was high. But when the bet was made, Alex was brand new in a new system, & etc. so it was looking like he would be below average even for himself.

beach tribe went out on a limb on a gutsy call at the time. It only looks like smart money in hind-sight. At the time, he was laughed at for saying Alex would clear 3400 yards. Sweet Daddy jumped on the bet so he must have been pretty confident himself.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:02 PM   #1256
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Yes. Alex posted 3144 in SF in 2011 and was on pace for 3330 in 2012. 3144 is his highest total to date. He played all 16 games in 2011 as well.

I do recall beach tribe and Daddy saying the bet was off in the event of injury but that was never detailed out. Injury to Smith or to Bowe or Charles or who? So the loser has an out clause there unless somebody can dig up the bet OP and they can agree on what constitutes an injury now before the loser can wiggle out.

But yes, 3400 would be an all time high for Alex so it wasn't very high but it was high. But when the bet was made, Alex was brand new in a new system, & etc. so it was looking like he would be below average even for himself.

beach tribe went out on a limb on a gutsy call at the time. It only looks like smart money in hind-sight. At the time, he was laughed at for saying Alex would clear 3400 yards. Sweet Daddy jumped on the bet so he must have been pretty confident himself.

Lets be very clear, you are a bundle of sticks.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:14 PM   #1258
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Do you understand English, or are you just drunk again?
Its a weird looking statement. Not orthodox at all.

Read it as: all I can say is; you hope.

ALL ANYONE can do is hope.

Hell I HOPE Alex does get us to a SB.

You and Clay HOPE Geno stops throwing 3 4th qtr picks, and red zone picks with the game on the line.

And Yeah, anyones HOPE is as good as anyone elses.
Thats all it is when it comes down to it.

And you better hope Alex get injured if you wanna win our bet.

Its been fun. Youre a decent enough heel. Im gone to bed.
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Its a weird looking statement. Not orthodox at all.

Read it as: all I can say is; you hope.

ALL ANYONE can do is hope.

Hell I HOPE Alex does get us to a SB.

You and Clay HOPE Geno stops throwing 3 4th qtr picks, and red zone picks with the game on the line.

And Yeah, anyones HOPE is as good as anyone elses.
Thats all it is when it comes down to it.

And you better hope Alex get injured if you wanna win our bet.

Its been fun. Youre a decent enough heel. Im gone to bed.
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