Football First openly gay NFL player to come out soon? - Page 9

Deberg_1990 · 03-26-2013, 06:51 AM

Would this really be that big a deal anymore??

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...er-to-come-out

Former NFL player Scott Fujita has seen enough. He's tired of the bigotry. He wants it to end. He's not alone.

Players like Fujita, along with a coalition of current and former NFL players, and NFL team owners, a music mogul and others, are working diligently to create a safe atmosphere for the day history will happen: when an openly gay man will be a member of an NFL club. People like Fujita -- brave people -- are attempting to make the issue a non-issue for when that day comes.

And there are serious indications that day may come sooner than later. While I've long believed I would not see an openly gay NFL player for decades, that might be wrong.

Based on interviews over the past several weeks with current and former players, I'm told that a current gay NFL player is strongly considering coming out publicly within the next few months -- and after doing so, the player would attempt to continue his career.

I'm told this player feels the time is now for someone to take this step -- despite homophobic remarks from San Francisco 49ers defensive back Chris Culliver and the controversy arising recently at the Indianapolis Scouting combine, when prospects were asked questions about their sexuality.

This player's true concern, I'm told, is not the reaction inside an NFL locker room but outside of it. The player fears he will suffer serious harm from homophobic fans, and that is the only thing preventing him from coming out. My sources will not say who this alleged player is.

There has never been an active openly gay player in a major American team sport, but the information I've gathered on the player in question comes from several current and former players.

"I honestly think the players of the NFL have been ready for an openly gay player for quite some time now," said Fujita, a free agent linebacker who has played for the Chiefs, Cowboys, Saints and Browns. "Trust me, the coming out of a player would create much bigger waves outside the locker room than inside. The way I've seen the conversation around LGBT issues evolve, especially in the past few years, has been encouraging. Guys are more accepting than they used to be. Even those who raise personal objections to homosexuality, some of whom are good friends of mine, would still be able to coexist and accept a gay teammate."

Over the past few days there's been a flurry of activity on the issue including a brief filed by Fujita and others in support of a marriage equality case before the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday will hear oral arguments on California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. Opponents of the proposition say it discriminates against gay men and women.

To Fujita and others, this is an important case that could have ramifications in the NFL. If the Supreme Court overturns Proposition 8, it would send yet another signal to closeted gay NFL players that the environment is changing for the better.

The brief's supporters are impressive. They include: Giants co-owner Steve Tisch; Demaurice Smith, executive director of the NFLPA; Vikings punter Chris Kluwe, Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo; Marie Tillman, co-founder of the Pat Tillman Foundation; Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam Records; former UFC light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans; Browns center Alex Mack; and NFL players Connor Barwin, D'Qwell Jackson, Tom Crabtree, Eric Winston and Scott Shanle, among others.

There is a feeling among people who have fought this battle for years that a corner is about to be turned. I don't know. While my faith in humanity remains tepid, it's balanced by my faith in people like Fujita.

ModSocks · 03-26-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This gay joke is extremely vulgar, so I put it in the spoiler tag. Don't read this and complain:

Spoiler!

That's the worst gay joke i've ever read.

**loochy** · 03-26-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

Why does this article mention that the player will 'try to continue his career'? Jeff Garcia has been out of the league for some time now.

Dude have you SEEN his wife?

Strongside · 03-26-2013, 10:43 AM

I'm no homophobe. My girlfriend and I eat at Hamburger Mary's all the time. I like deh food.

**RealSNR** · 03-26-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

That's the worst gay joke i've ever read.

Then it won't surprise you that I stole it from Gilbert Gottfried

Strongside · 03-26-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Dude have you SEEN his wife?

Best looking tranny I've ever seen.

patteeu · 03-26-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I wouldn't have enjoyed being around an openly gay guy in my frat in college. It's possible one of the 100 was but it certainly wasn't known. I wouldn't shower in the common area with the possibility he'd show up in there. Anyone who can't understand the natural aversion straight males have to this, is a ****ing moron.

If you went to KU, I've got news for you.

KC native · 03-26-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This gay joke is extremely vulgar, so I put it in the spoiler tag. Don't read this and complain:

Spoiler!

I'm complaining because I was led to believe this would be an extremely awesome joke. It was only chuckle worthy. May the ghost of rape-mas past visit you in your sleep. BOO THIS MAN.

Dayze · 03-26-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

This gay joke is extremely vulgar, so I put it in the spoiler tag. Don't read this and complain:

Spoiler!

Stanley Nickels · 03-26-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

No it's not. It's 2-3%.

The actual number is difficult to discern and will likely never be completely known, due to a number of factors, not the least of which is incidence vs prevalence (eg, does having ANY homosexual contact identify one as "gay"), but regardless, your estimate is very low.

Incidence rates tend to hover around 15%-- that is, 15% of people have had same-sex encounters during some pre-defined period (usually adolescence to young-adulthood); prevlance rates range from about 5-10%.

I'm not sure if you're behind a paywall, but here's one of many PubMed articles surveying a random community about this exact situation:
http://www.ncbi.

.nih.gov/pubmed/9736328
The abstract says most of the important stuff; if you're interested in the criteria, you'll need to have PM access.

**RealSNR** · 03-26-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

I'm complaining because I was led to believe this would be an extremely awesome joke. It was only chuckle worthy. May the ghost of rape-mas past visit you in your sleep. BOO THIS MAN.

I guess I should just stick to Jovan Belcher jokes, then

Prison Bitch · 03-26-2013, 10:49 AM

It will be interesting to see if he's given the sexual harassment training. You see, I've been given it at all four of my companies and never once asked if I wanted to participate. Simple: it's mandatory. Sure I've never harassed anyone but tat doesn't exempt me from it. And now this guy will have to undergo it as well.

We cannot assume he will be turned on, but my companies could never assume I'd e turned on by my female co-workers. Same deal.

KC native · 03-26-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I guess I should just stick to Jovan Belcher jokes, then

CHEER THIS MAN. HOORAY FOR KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE GOOD AT.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-26-2013, 10:50 AM

Matt Cassel

I knew it !

**Reaper16** · 03-26-2013, 10:50 AM

Anyone who is all "who cares? I'm sick of hearing about gay issues" has very obviously never had to hide their fullest expression of themselves because of societal stigmas. There's nothing wrong with that -- you're fortunate and many people would love to trade experiences with you -- but one ought to be aware of how their own privilege informs their thinking on this issue.

teedubya · 03-26-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

he'll most assuredly lead with his head.

... yeah, Gay players that lead with their helmet will be penile-ized.

03-26-2013, 06:51 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	First openly gay NFL player to come out soon? Would this really be that big a deal anymore?? http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...er-to-come-out Former NFL player Scott Fujita has seen enough. He's tired of the bigotry. He wants it to end. He's not alone. Players like Fujita, along with a coalition of current and former NFL players, and NFL team owners, a music mogul and others, are working diligently to create a safe atmosphere for the day history will happen: when an openly gay man will be a member of an NFL club. People like Fujita -- brave people -- are attempting to make the issue a non-issue for when that day comes. And there are serious indications that day may come sooner than later. While I've long believed I would not see an openly gay NFL player for decades, that might be wrong. Based on interviews over the past several weeks with current and former players, I'm told that a current gay NFL player is strongly considering coming out publicly within the next few months -- and after doing so, the player would attempt to continue his career. I'm told this player feels the time is now for someone to take this step -- despite homophobic remarks from San Francisco 49ers defensive back Chris Culliver and the controversy arising recently at the Indianapolis Scouting combine, when prospects were asked questions about their sexuality. This player's true concern, I'm told, is not the reaction inside an NFL locker room but outside of it. The player fears he will suffer serious harm from homophobic fans, and that is the only thing preventing him from coming out. My sources will not say who this alleged player is. There has never been an active openly gay player in a major American team sport, but the information I've gathered on the player in question comes from several current and former players. "I honestly think the players of the NFL have been ready for an openly gay player for quite some time now," said Fujita, a free agent linebacker who has played for the Chiefs, Cowboys, Saints and Browns. "Trust me, the coming out of a player would create much bigger waves outside the locker room than inside. The way I've seen the conversation around LGBT issues evolve, especially in the past few years, has been encouraging. Guys are more accepting than they used to be. Even those who raise personal objections to homosexuality, some of whom are good friends of mine, would still be able to coexist and accept a gay teammate." Over the past few days there's been a flurry of activity on the issue including a brief filed by Fujita and others in support of a marriage equality case before the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court on Tuesday will hear oral arguments on California's Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. Opponents of the proposition say it discriminates against gay men and women. To Fujita and others, this is an important case that could have ramifications in the NFL. If the Supreme Court overturns Proposition 8, it would send yet another signal to closeted gay NFL players that the environment is changing for the better. The brief's supporters are impressive. They include: Giants co-owner Steve Tisch; Demaurice Smith, executive director of the NFLPA; Vikings punter Chris Kluwe, Ravens linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo; Marie Tillman, co-founder of the Pat Tillman Foundation; Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam Records; former UFC light heavyweight champion Rashad Evans; Browns center Alex Mack; and NFL players Connor Barwin, D'Qwell Jackson, Tom Crabtree, Eric Winston and Scott Shanle, among others. There is a feeling among people who have fought this battle for years that a corner is about to be turned. I don't know. While my faith in humanity remains tepid, it's balanced by my faith in people like Fujita.
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03-26-2013, 10:49 AM	#131
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	It will be interesting to see if he's given the sexual harassment training. You see, I've been given it at all four of my companies and never once asked if I wanted to participate. Simple: it's mandatory. Sure I've never harassed anyone but tat doesn't exempt me from it. And now this guy will have to undergo it as well. We cannot assume he will be turned on, but my companies could never assume I'd e turned on by my female co-workers. Same deal.
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03-26-2013, 10:50 AM	#133
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