Breaking Bad

[irishjayhawk]

Anyone watching this magnificent show?

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Brock

She's a loose end and a potential danger to his family. She absolutely had to go.

Did anyone see Walt slip her the sugar packet with the ricin? I had no idea he did it until he called her.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

great episode.

dont remember how he slipped her the ricin though..did i miss that while they were all sitting there at the diner table?

It's done off screen, but implied through the closeup of her POV in slo-mo as she puts the Stevia in her tea. Listen to the sound and watch the swirl.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's done off screen, but implied through the closeup of her POV in slo-mo as she puts the Stevia in her tea.

And he told her during the phone call.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by notorious

And he told her during the phone call.

Of course he did, but he didn't need to. The director bashed you over the head with it. Him telling her was an extra "**** you" so that she knows he killed her.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Of course he did, but he didn't need to. The director bashed you over the head with it. Him telling her was an extra "**** you" so that she knows he killed her.

It was awesome.


The horror on her face is priceless. She knows she is going to die in hours and there is nothing she can do about it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's literally the last shot before the commercial at the 35 minute mark.

She says "We'd be doing him a favor," drops the Stevia in, then the camera changes to a shot directly above the tea and zooms in on the tea as the Stevia disappears, along with dramatic "whooshing" noises.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by notorious

It was in her sugar packet.

but how did the ricin get into the sugar packet? he would have had to open it first and dumped it in there? Was he doing that when he was sitting across the diner while alone?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Otter

Did anyone see Walt slip her the sugar packet with the ricin? I had no idea he did it until he called her.

He apparently did it beforehand.

[CoMoChief]

I just read the post where it said it was done off camera. But in that scene Walt is never off camera. So they're implying that he slipped it in there at some point by her stirring in the sugar packet, but it wasn't ever shown "how" he managed to slip it to her..at least I think that's kinda important if you're just going to come out and say later that "I slipped you the ricin that's why you feel very ill." IMO that was poorly done unless I'm just completely missing something and need to watch again on dvr.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

but how did the ricin get into the sugar packet? he would have had to open it first and dumped it in there? Was he doing that when he was sitting across the diner while alone?

Knowing that she's a creature of habit he can easily make a miniscule hole in the upper portion of the packet to pour a a few grains in. He could have adulterated Stevia packets before her meeting and placed the killer one in the container before she went to the diner. Notice how there was only one packet there?

Not everything has to happen on the screen.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I just read the post where it said it was done off camera. But in that scene Walt is never off camera. So they're implying that he slipped it in there at some point, but it wasn't ever shown. IMO that was poorly done unless I'm just completely missing something and need to watch again on dvr.

He told her that he put ricin in her sugar packet that she always uses.

It's pretty obvious.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I just read the post where it said it was done off camera. But in that scene Walt is never off camera. So they're implying that he slipped it in there at some point, but it wasn't ever shown. IMO that was poorly done unless I'm just completely missing something and need to watch again on dvr.

Did Walt teleport to the coffee shop or did he drive there off camera? There are reasonable assumptions viewers can make about what did and didn't happen, especially when given visual and spoken word evidence about what happened.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Maybe the lack of depth of his loss is part of the challenge the viewer could consider.

He was always going to die inside of a few months anyway. The only cops who deserved the bust are being dug out of a hole. He still dies knowing he'll never see his daughter grow up, his son despises him--literally wishing death upon him, and his wife has been ruined. That weighs on him. Even evil men can rightfully despair. His empire disintegrated and he lost 80% of his nut.

Walt can still be despicable and right wrongs, and that's what this episode attempted. He had motivation and rationale to do it.

I think most people view Walt's death as redemptive. Which goes to the "lack of depth of his loss." I thought Gilligan wrapped up his storyline way too conveniently.

He knows he's ruined lives. But in the grand scheme of things, he got off incredibly light. Hank was killed off without getting closure while Walt had a full episode to tie up loose ends. Jesse was distanced from his family, lost a best friend, and had 2 girls he cared about killed (one... COMPLETELY innocent). Walt didn't lose anybody... just a brother-in-law he didn't care about protecting until the last minute.

Walt was allowed to have an epiphany and fix everything wrong without any majorly devastating event to trigger it. He got off light. I think it would have been a much more complex ending if he had to die knowing that one of his loose ends that really mattered to him weren't tied up.

[keg in kc]

That. Was. Awesome.

[notorious]

It shows her mixing her drink with a shit-ton of sugar multiple times on previous episodes.