"I Was An NFL Player Until I Was Fired By Two Cowards and a Bigot"

[Marco Polo]

The Vikings organization and the NFL could be sued if any of this is true from the special teams coordinator.

I can't imagine the depths of lawsuits that would accrue if any leader in my organization said some of the things that the special teams coordinator said.

Not to turn this into a Duck Dynasty/religion conversation but you can have your opinion, you just can't say those vile things ("nuke it until it glows") while representing your organization.

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-pla...208214#replies

[TribalElder]

Gay punter just wanted to kick it

News at 11

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

The Vikings organization and the NFL could be sued if any of this is true from the special teams coordinator.

I can't imagine the depths of lawsuits that would accrue if any leader in my organization said some of the things that the special teams coordinator said.

Not to turn this into a Duck Dynasty/religion conversation but you can have your opinion, you just can't say those vile things ("nuke it until it glows") while representing your organization.

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-pla...208214#replies

Prison Bitch has a new favorite team.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

I don't think nearly enough people actually thought about what he said.... They're just here for the bashing.

Thought about? They would actually have to read the whole thing first.

This thread is a good barometer for the dumbassess on this website.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

They are different but the message is the same and there will always be similarities. When the media digs in and makes mountains out of molehills out of things like the Phil Robertson bullshit you open it up for bottom feeders to come along and take advantage of a similar type of topic and get their 15 minutes of fame out of it. Kluwe is one of those individuals, at least that's how he's always come across to me. I don't agree with Phil Robertson, but he's a good person with his own viewpoints, Kluwe is just a douchebag.

You would be right, except you didn't read the article, are completely ignorant to Kluwe's history and not very smart.

Not a good combination, my dude.

[Just Passin' By]

Minnesota Vikings special teams coordinator MIKE PRIEFER just emailed me this statement regarding former Vikings punter CHRIS KLUWE'S attack today:

"I vehemently deny today’s allegations made by Chris Kluwe.

I want to be clear that I do not tolerate discrimination of any type and am respectful of all individuals. I personally have gay family members who I love and support just as I do any family member.

The primary reason I entered coaching was to affect people in a positive way. As a coach, I have always created an accepting environment for my players, including Chris, and have looked to support them both on and off the field.

The comments today have not only attacked my character and insulted my professionalism, but they have also impacted my family. While my career focus is to be a great professional football coach, my number one priority has always been to be a protective husband and father to my wife and children.

http://www.kfan.com/pages/psn_paulal...ticle=11941032

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Dante84

This and Phil Robertson are completely different.

PR expressed his views, and A&E expressed theirs, by suspending him. PR can still quit, A&E can still fire him. No rights are violated, and everyone is treated fairly under the law.

What Kluwe is alleging is harassment by an employer because of his opinions on a human rights issue. Whether its true or not, it IS a legal issue, because in America, discriminatory language by your employer is not allowed.

Again - this situation is completely different than Phil Robertson, who's rights were not violated.

Wrong.

Both employers have every right to reprimand the employees for outside of work related incidents.

Whether you are a bigot or an anti-bigot, your employer can fire your ass for ANYTHING not protected under federal law/state law or contractually. (Contract/union etc) Talking shit about ANYTHING in the media, is not a protected status by the feds.


So yea, it might have been a dick move, but it is EXACTLY the same as Phil Robertson.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Pants

You would be right, except you didn't read the article, are completely ignorant to Kluwe's history and not very smart.

Not a good combination, my dude.

I am right, I did read the article twice, I know Kluwe's history about as well as most, and I don't see how my comments above proved otherwise. I guess I could've provided links but other than that.... guess agree to disagree. Calling a guy an attention whore hardly seems like the worst thing in the world, but if it offended you then I don't know what to tell you.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

I am right, I did read the article twice, I know Kluwe's history about as well as most, and I don't see how my comments above proved otherwise. I guess I could've provided links but other than that.... guess agree to disagree. Calling a guy an attention whore hardly seems like the worst thing in the world, but if it offended you then I don't know what to tell you.

Be honest, you didn't just call him an attention whore.

Your whole mindset is just so painful to me. People with mindsets like yours stifle progress, in my opinion.

But yeah, I was just mainly pointing out that your argument might not be the strongest due to the fact that Kluwe was speaking out about these issues long before the Duck Dynasty dude said whatever it was he said.

Maybe I'm just overreacting.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Pants

Be honest, you didn't just call him an attention whore.

Your whole mindset is just so painful to me. People with mindsets like yours stifle progress, in my opinion.

But yeah, I was just mainly pointing out that your argument might not be the strongest due to the fact that Kluwe was speaking out about these issues long before the Duck Dynasty dude said whatever it was he said.

Maybe I'm just overreacting.

Your notion of progress is someone else's notion of decline. Welcome to the world.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

No, I didn't see this paragraph either.

Or this one?

Near the end of November, several teammates and I were walking into a specialist meeting with Coach Priefer. We were laughing over one of the recent articles I had written supporting same-sex marriage rights, and one of my teammates made a joking remark about me leading the Pride parade. As we sat down in our chairs, Mike Priefer, in one of the meanest voices I can ever recall hearing, said: "We should round up all the gays, send them to an island, and then nuke it until it glows." The room grew intensely quiet, and none of the players said a word for the rest of the meeting. The atmosphere was decidedly tense. I had never had an interaction that hostile with any of my teammates on this issue—some didn't agree with me, but our conversations were always civil and respectful. Afterward, several told me that what Mike Priefer had said was "messed up."

I would say that goes farther than having a different opinion on same sex marriage.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Your notion of progress is someone else's notion of decline. Welcome to the world.

Sorry, I was talking about this:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

There's always going to be racism, there's always going to be hatred, there's always going to be terrorism, and there's always going to be the Denver Broncos. You can try to change it, but people are who they are, stay away from the one's you don't agree with and your life will be better for it.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Pants

Be honest, you didn't just call him an attention whore.

Your whole mindset is just so painful to me. People with mindsets like yours stifle progress, in my opinion.

But yeah, I was just mainly pointing out that your argument might not be the strongest due to the fact that Kluwe was speaking out about these issues long before the Duck Dynasty dude said whatever it was he said.

Maybe I'm just overreacting.

And Kluwe has constantly put himself out there. This wasn't a leaked email, this was an open letter, placed out there by him. Accusing an organization of deliberately getting rid of him based on his views of same sex equality. He accuses the ST coach of saying some pretty terrible things, not saying he's lying, but in the end he's saying that Spielman AND Frazier were cowards and that they said if the SPECIAL TEAMS COACH, I highlighted it to show the insignificance of the ST coaches opinion about the views of the Punter, believed that he shouldn't be on the team because of said views, then they were fine with that. It's all a little too far fetched in my personal opinion.

Kluwe has no proof, it's one guys story, and I don't trust his story. If I had to put my thumb down on his Character, I'd say he's that guy who has burned some bridges in his time with the Vikings in more ways than one. Maybe he was a problem in the locker room, constantly caused problems by being so outspoken and accusing people of being something that they aren't. He's already shown that he's that guy that your word is never safe around him. If you say that you hate gays, and you think you're around the fellas and they know the way things go, well that's not the case. Call out the Special Teams coach, that's fine, but to outright call the Coach and GM cowards? None too smart, good luck getting a job in the future Chris Kluwe.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Or this one?



I would say that goes farther than having a different opinion on same sex marriage.

Maybe he just has poor delivery for jokes?

[stevieray]

....hope he saved his money.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Maybe he just has poor delivery for jokes?

I could just see him standing there in front of them waiting for a reaction then awkwardly having to get back to drawing on the dry erase board.