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Old 02-16-2013, 08:14 PM  
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Will the SOC fire up if no QB in the first?
Just curious. I hope so because it would royally be depressing.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:05 PM   #166
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He wouldn't have. His papa was quite clear on that.

Please tell me nobody has held out a year.
I know he would not of signed but only because he was being a cock. But under normal circumstances he would of signed and he would of been a charger.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:06 PM   #167
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Actually, a rookie who played a few games for another team is WORSE.

You're acquiring him under the pretense that he's a "veteran" when in reality, he isn't.

He's no better than somebody you could find in this year's draft.
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This is so ****ing ****ing stupid. Nick Foles was a third round pick so wtf is wrong with picking Geno Smith with the first pick? Why give up picks when we can save our picks and take the top rated QB of this class? It's ****ing dumb and Geno Smith is a bigger prsospect that has more upside than Nick Foles.

Damn...I'm trying to help you guys out by showing how logical your statements about Foles are...You should be thanking me.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:06 PM   #168
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And that would be inaccurate.

He was with the Packers before he was with the Rams.
He was released in training camp. He was never on the Packers active roster.

Try again.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:07 PM   #169
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Damn...I'm trying to help you guys out by showing how logical your statements about Foles are...You should be thanking me.
I was agreeing with you. And raising the ante.

Sorry if you took that as an attack or something.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:08 PM   #170
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He was released in training camp. He was never on the Packers active roster.

Try again.
The Rams weren't his first team. They were the first team he was on the active roster for, but not the first one that he signed a contract with.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:08 PM   #171
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The Rams weren't his first team. They were the first team he was on the active roster for, but not the first one that he signed a contract with.
And?

Are you following the discussion at all?
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:10 PM   #172
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And?

Are you following the discussion at all?
Yes.

I was just pointing out some thing that I hold to be inaccurate.

I am on your side of the QB discussion.

The only teams since 2000 to have made and won the Superbowl with a QB that didn't make their professional debut for them were the 2000 Ravens, 2002 Raiders, 2002 Buccaneers, 2003 Panthers, 2005 Seahawks, 2008 Cardinals, and 2009 Saints.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:12 PM   #173
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The history of the NFL is filled with retreads at the quarterback position who went on to win Super Bowls for their new teams.

It would obviously be total lunacy to say that Nick Foles even belongs in the same discussion as any of those guys. But to immediately dismiss him as a retread who has no chance of winning would be just as wrong as trying to compare him to guys like Favre, Young, Theismann, Warner, Plunkett, and Dawson.

I'm not taking issue with your position of wanting the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith. I WANT the Chiefs to draft Geno Smith. I think he's the best prospect out there, and I think it would be awesome for the Chiefs to start over with a highly regarded rookie quarterback. I guess what I'm taking issue with is the argument that retread quarterbacks have no value. They can have great value under the right circumstances, and that's why I'm not going to jump off a bridge if Andy Reid decides that Nick Foles is the guy he wants.
You are right all those guys you named were so called " retreads". And they faired pretty well.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:15 PM   #175
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Hell foles can`t even be considered a retread. Hell if it was not for vick being hurt the so called wrapping paper on foles would not of even been riped off.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:18 PM   #176
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HOLY SHIT BALLS CHIEFS FANS WANT ANOTHER TEAMS THIRD ROUND PICK QB OVER A FIRST ROUND PICK OF OUR OWN. CLOWN SMILE DEATH WARMED OVER.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:20 PM   #177
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Yes.

I was just pointing out some thing that I hold to be inaccurate.

I am on your side of the QB discussion.

The only teams since 2000 to have made and won the Superbowl with a QB that didn't make their professional debut for them were the 2000 Ravens, 2002 Raiders, 2002 Buccaneers, 2003 Panthers, 2005 Seahawks, 2008 Cardinals, and 2009 Saints.
Kurt Warner didn't make his professional debut with the Packers though. He signed a conditional contract and was cut in training camp.

He was never "on the team".

And the 2002 Raiders, 2003 Panthers, 2005 Seahawks, and 2008 Cardinals made the Super Bowl but didn't win, just FYI.
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HOLY SHIT BALLS CHIEFS FANS WANT ANOTHER TEAMS THIRD ROUND PICK QB OVER A FIRST ROUND PICK OF OUR OWN. CLOWN SMILE DEATH WARMED OVER.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:21 PM   #179
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You are right all those guys you named were so called " retreads". And they faired pretty well.
Some of those guys RETIRED in the 70's.

Your and idiot.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:23 PM   #180
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And the 2002 Raiders, 2003 Panthers, 2005 Seahawks, and 2008 Cardinals made the Super Bowl but didn't win, just FYI.
Yeah. I thought that post was a bit unclear so I posted this later on:

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