Terry Shea just got fired from the Bears OC - Page 5

Hoover · 03:40 PM

The Score 670 am out of Chicago just had the news.

Do you guys think we should bring him back as QB coach?

In other Bears news, Lovie Smith said that getting better on offense is his top goal this offseason and will use their top pick on offense.

Nere is the news story from www.chicagosports.com

The Bears fired offensive coordinator Terry Shea Tuesday after a season in which the team had the NFL's worst offense.

The Bears, who finished 5-11, also ranked last in six major statistical categories, including scoring and total yards. Shea had been with the Bears for one season.

"It was a tough decision," said Lovie Smith, who just finished his first season as Bears head coach. "He's a good man, a good coach, but I felt like this was the direction that we had to go to."

Smith said the team is in the process of looking for a replacement.

The Bears lost six of its last seven games. The Bears had more lost fumbles (21) than offensive touchdowns (19).

"Every coach had all of my full support really as were going through the season, but as you look at things after the season and we're 5-11 and that isn't good enough," Smith said.

Shea was previously the quarterbacks coach of the high-scoring Kansas City Chiefs. His hiring last January had been applauded by Bears fans and players alike, who hoped he would bring excitement to an offense that was characterized as boring under the man he replaced, John Shoop.

Also, none other than the father of the "West Coast" offense, Bill Walsh, praised Shea as an innovator when Shea was being considered for the Bears job.

Shea came aboard promising a major makeover featuring a version of the offense style that calls on the quarterback to make accurate throws and get the ball to receivers and backs, who are counted on to get yardage after the catch and make adjustments depending on the defense. It's predicated on first-down production, protecting the football and reeling off sizable plays.

But the Bears were unable to pull it off.

And in fairness, Shea's offense didn't have all of its working parts. Quarterback Rex Grossman was lost in the third game of the season with a knee injury, and the Bears went through three more starters.

Shea had been Walsh's offensive coordinator at Stanford from 1992-94, and he joined the Chiefs in 2001 after five years as head coach at Rutgers, where he compiled an 11-44 record.

Following his three-year stint with Walsh at Stanford, he was with the CFL's British Columbia Lions in 1995. Shea joined Stanford after a two-year head coaching stint at San Jose State (1990-91) where he compiled a 15-6-2 record and led the school to a pair of Big West titles.
Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press

KCTitus · 01-04-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The Chiefs didn't realize any concept. The guy who sucked shit had to hand himself his own pink slip.

If this argument is to hold up, we would have seen a dramatic improvement on defense...we didnt.

Matter of fact, a few of KC's stops in the latter weeks of the season were the result of Gunther using some of Robinson's schemes and backing off his attacking style. DV mentioned this in one of his press conferences.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2005, 03:38 PM

No doubt talent is an issue. I screamed about it during th offseason, I screamed about it during the season, and will CONTINUE to scream about until the Chiefs get off their ASS and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

The last thing I want to hear is a bunch of frigging excuses... and that's what I've been seeing nothing but, lately.

KCTitus · 01-04-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

You should learn to apply the same criteria to your own posts. TBG was factually accurate: in KC, firing gawd-awful coordinators/coaches IS a novel concept. You're the one who proclaimed that he was wrong because we fired Robinson, when we clearly had not. Unless you had inside knowlege, you're talking out your ass.

Re read his post...firing was not his key point. His key point was that it was a novel concept for a coordinator to lose his job for not getting it done.

Thanks to my misspeak, we've got to key in on the firing angle to deflect the nonsense that was originally posted. That's fine, Im a big boy, I can handle it.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2005, 03:40 PM

And, for the record, I gave the Chiefs ZERO dollars this season. I did not purchase tickets, I did not pay for parking. I did not purchase Chiefs gear, nor would I allow my family to purchase it for me.

Until they make an effort to fix the fucked up mess they've built, they will see not a dime from me.

tk13 · 01-04-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Robinson was a FAILURE, but he wouldn't have gone anywhere if he hadn't resigned. DV certainly would not have fired him.

While I agree that you have a point against Titus that there can be a huge difference between being fired and resigning and I agree that we are too passive with front office moves, but you cannot bash him for using conjecture when in fact you yourself are doing the same thing considering the Robinson resigned about 10 seconds after the Colts playoff game and never gave the front office a change to decide his fate....

KCTitus · 01-04-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

And, for the record, I gave the Chiefs ZERO dollars this season. I did not purchase tickets, I did not pay for parking. I did not purchase Chiefs gear, nor would I allow my family to purchase it for me.

Until they make an effort to fix the fucked up mess they've built, they will see not a dime from me.

Neither did I...yet I come off as some sort of nazi-homer or something. Well, I did buy my son a Dante jersey for Christmas, Im nuturing a budding fanship as he's discovered football this year and watched games with me.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2005, 03:43 PM

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His key point was that it was a novel concept for a coordinator to lose his job for not getting it done.

And considering KC's history, is he really that far off? Seriously, when was the last time KC gave someone their walking papers?

Gunther is the ONLY one that comes to mind... and that was only because CP finally talked DV into coaching in KC. DV says no, Gun & the

would have finished out their contracts, and you know it.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

While I agree that you have a point against Titus that there can be a huge difference between being fired and resigning and I agree that we are too passive with front office moves, but you cannot bash him for using conjecture when in fact you yourself are doing the same thing considering the Robinson resigned about 10 seconds after the Colts playoff game and never gave the front office a change to decide his fate....

Conjecture, with the assistance of DV's own words from the press conference. He clearly did not want Knobinson to go. CP I cannot speak for, but he hasn't fired many people in his tenure (despite one playoff win in 12 years)

KCTitus · 01-04-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Gunther is the ONLY one that comes to mind... and that was only because CP finally talked DV into coaching in KC. DV says no, Gun & the

would have finished out their contracts, and you know it.

Should I put this one down with the lore that says DV drafted Lawrence Phillips, too?

**The Bad Guy** · 01-04-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Yep, I caught you acting like a genious (chiefsplanet spelling) and called you out. Please continue with the witty, Carl's got pictures of Titus posts...

You caught me acting like a genius?

Good one.

Acting like a genius how? Saying that resigning is different than organization firing someone?

You call out people who disagree with your precious Carl Peterson - I should of known better.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Should I put this one down with the lore that says DV drafted Lawrence Phillips, too?

No, but it can be filed away with the "DV clung to Larry Phillips and Tony Banks until he was forced to use someone else by the front office" lore.

**Rausch** · 01-04-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It does matter how he left. Well, it doesn't matter to do you because your lips are firmly cemented on the Chiefs ass so it defeats your argument to realize that it does.

Robinson had to remove himself because this organization wasn't going to do it.

To this day I don't believe that any more than I believe Marty "resigned."

I can't prove it, of course, but it's my belief...

tk13 · 01-04-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Conjecture, with the assistance of DV's own words from the press conference. He clearly did not want Knobinson to go. CP I cannot speak for, but he hasn't fired many people in his tenure (despite one playoff win in 12 years)

I'm sorry, but you're just fudging things to support your argument, that's worse than conjecture. From Robinson's own mouth...

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...fs/7700451.htm

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Robinson said that on Monday afternoon, he spoke with Vermeil and told him he would resign if Vermeil thought that was best for the team.

"He told me that he thought it would be," Robinson said.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 01-04-2005, 04:20 PM

I'm shocked that Shea's love for Jonathon Quinn didn't work out....

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-04-2005, 04:26 PM

I don't think he deserved to get fired; not after one year. He needs the players to run the system he wants to. It wasn't his fault that the Bears front office and co. didn't get him the players, and it wasn't his fault that the players he did have sucked or got injured.

01-04-2005, 01:07 PM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1538179	Terry Shea just got fired from the Bears OC The Score 670 am out of Chicago just had the news. Do you guys think we should bring him back as QB coach? In other Bears news, Lovie Smith said that getting better on offense is his top goal this offseason and will use their top pick on offense. Nere is the news story from www.chicagosports.com The Bears fired offensive coordinator Terry Shea Tuesday after a season in which the team had the NFL's worst offense. The Bears, who finished 5-11, also ranked last in six major statistical categories, including scoring and total yards. Shea had been with the Bears for one season. "It was a tough decision," said Lovie Smith, who just finished his first season as Bears head coach. "He's a good man, a good coach, but I felt like this was the direction that we had to go to." Smith said the team is in the process of looking for a replacement. The Bears lost six of its last seven games. The Bears had more lost fumbles (21) than offensive touchdowns (19). "Every coach had all of my full support really as were going through the season, but as you look at things after the season and we're 5-11 and that isn't good enough," Smith said. Shea was previously the quarterbacks coach of the high-scoring Kansas City Chiefs. His hiring last January had been applauded by Bears fans and players alike, who hoped he would bring excitement to an offense that was characterized as boring under the man he replaced, John Shoop. Also, none other than the father of the "West Coast" offense, Bill Walsh, praised Shea as an innovator when Shea was being considered for the Bears job. Shea came aboard promising a major makeover featuring a version of the offense style that calls on the quarterback to make accurate throws and get the ball to receivers and backs, who are counted on to get yardage after the catch and make adjustments depending on the defense. It's predicated on first-down production, protecting the football and reeling off sizable plays. But the Bears were unable to pull it off. And in fairness, Shea's offense didn't have all of its working parts. Quarterback Rex Grossman was lost in the third game of the season with a knee injury, and the Bears went through three more starters. Shea had been Walsh's offensive coordinator at Stanford from 1992-94, and he joined the Chiefs in 2001 after five years as head coach at Rutgers, where he compiled an 11-44 record. Following his three-year stint with Walsh at Stanford, he was with the CFL's British Columbia Lions in 1995. Shea joined Stanford after a two-year head coaching stint at San Jose State (1990-91) where he compiled a 15-6-2 record and led the school to a pair of Big West titles. Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press Last edited by Hoover; 01-04-2005 at 03:40 PM..
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01-04-2005, 03:38 PM	#62
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	No doubt talent is an issue. I screamed about it during th offseason, I screamed about it during the season, and will CONTINUE to scream about until the Chiefs get off their ASS and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. The last thing I want to hear is a bunch of frigging excuses... and that's what I've been seeing nothing but, lately. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	And, for the record, I gave the Chiefs ZERO dollars this season. I did not purchase tickets, I did not pay for parking. I did not purchase Chiefs gear, nor would I allow my family to purchase it for me. Until they make an effort to fix the fucked up mess they've built, they will see not a dime from me. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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01-04-2005, 04:20 PM	#74
Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm shocked that Shea's love for Jonathon Quinn didn't work out.... __________________ courtesy of BoneKrusher "Baseball? It's just a game. As simple as a ball and bat, yet as complex as the American spirit it symbolizes. It's a sport, a business and sometimes a religion." Ernie Harwell
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01-04-2005, 04:26 PM	#75
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	I don't think he deserved to get fired; not after one year. He needs the players to run the system he wants to. It wasn't his fault that the Bears front office and co. didn't get him the players, and it wasn't his fault that the players he did have sucked or got injured. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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