Football Does accepting defensive pass interference eliminate a reception? - Page 2

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 03:52 PM

Yes this is a fantasy football question.

The NFL has ruled that this was a reception by Hakeem Nicks. This obviously changes the scoring for Nicks in a FF league and it has reversed the outcome of a game. Now I've got the owner of the (now) losing team complaining that this wasn't a catch because the Giants accepted the penalty.

Should I overturn the stat adjustment and keep the score the way it originally was? Or the does the NFL ruling trump all?

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:10 PM

Nope....the stats on the website state that he Nicks has 4 receptions for 38 yards. He's saying that we have the power to overturn it because it shouldn't be a catch.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-22-2011, 04:12 PM

On a second look, one reason they may have taken a penalty is because he was close to being out of bounds....so they made sure they got the 1st instead of having the chance he was still juggling the ball as he stepped out....

Thats the only reason I can think of for taking the penalty there.

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

On a second look, one reason they may have taken a penalty is because he was close to being out of bounds....so they made sure they got the 1st instead of having the chance he was still juggling the ball as he stepped out....

Thats the only reason I can think of for taking the penalty there.

That's my thoughts. I still have no ****ing clue why the NFL would come in and give Nicks the catch if there was a penalty accepted. There's no point to it...

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-22-2011, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Nope....the stats on the website state that he Nicks has 4 receptions for 38 yards. He's saying that we have the power to overturn it because it shouldn't be a catch.

Hmm so he is saying that it was one of the 4 catches and shouldnt be?

I didnt watch the game but they couldve picked the flag up and ruled it a catch?

Sorry your having a butthurt guy ruin your fun man 8-(

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:16 PM

Yeah....he's stating that they accepted the penalty...so it shouldn't be a catch. And in turn....he should still have the victory.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-22-2011, 04:18 PM

Here it is bro:

(They declined it)

Quote:

(6:37) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass deep left to 88-H.Nicks pushed ob at STL 9 for 23 yards (32-B.Fletcher). Penalty on STL-32-B.Fletcher, Defensive Pass Interference, declined.

source:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201109...yze=playbyplay

Mystery solved, tell him to go **** himself.

ZootedGranny · 09-22-2011, 04:19 PM

The Giants declined the penalty, which is why Nicks was given a reception and an additional 23 yards.

ModSocks · 09-22-2011, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Here it is bro:

(They declined it)

source:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201109...yze=playbyplay

Mystery solved, tell him to go **** himself.

so shove that in his face and tell him to **** himself...

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:20 PM

Teams can do this shit after a game?

Quote:

New York Giants’ Eli Manning, Hakeem Nicks Credited with 23-Yard Pass & Catch
September 21st, 2011 at 7:17 PM
By Dan Benton

St. Louis Rams Bradley Fletcher defends New York Giants Hakeem Nicks who tries to make a one handed catch yards in the first quarter in week 2 of the NFL season at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey on September 19, 2011. UPI /John Angelillo

John Angelillo/UPI/FotoglifNew York Giants wide receiver Hakeem Nicks now has 11 receptions for 160 yards on the season after the NFL credited him with a 23-yard catch that was initially ruled incomplete on Monday night.

The play came on the Giants' first touchdown drive of the game, as Nicks hauled in an incredibly impressive one-handed grab while being interfered with by St. Louis Rams cornerback Bradley Fletcher. Initially, referees ruled the pass incomplete but assessed the 23-yard penalty on the Rams for pass interference, but after watching the tape, the NFL ruled the pass it complete. They gave Big Blue the choice to accept the penalty (as they had originally) or decline it, giving Nicks credit for the reception. Obviously the Giants chose the latter.
This alteration changes Nicks' stat line for Monday night to four receptions for 38 yards and a touchdown. As noted above, it also changes his season stat line to 11 receptions for 160 yards and a touchdown. He will also be credited with a first down, bringing his season total to seven.

In addition to Nicks, this also changes Eli Manning's numbers for both the game and the season. He is now credited with completing 19 of 30 passes (63.33%) for 223 yards, two touchdowns and one interception against the Rams, and completing 37 of 62 passes (60.66) for 491 yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions on the season. Like Nicks, he also gets credit for an additional first down and raises his average yards per pass from 7.67 to 7.92 on the year.

If you had either or both players on your respective fantasy teams, you should also be seeing additional credit based on your scoring settings.

ElGringo · 09-22-2011, 04:20 PM

If it were me, I would stick with what ever the official stats say. If the official stats say it is a catch, it is a catch, if the official stats say it is no catch, no catch. I don't really understand the debate. If done on pen and paper, without internet and all this technology, I would imagine that is the way it would be done. I don't play fantasy football, but from my understand it is just an accumulation of stats.

**BigRichard** · 09-22-2011, 04:22 PM

If your site has the same stats that the NFL has I would tell him to go **** himself and to quit being a little bitch.

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:24 PM

****ing hell.

Now the two teams that this affected want it put up to a vote by the league.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-22-2011, 04:24 PM

Tell him youll give him his money back if he writes a letter to the NFL and convinces them to take the catch away from Nicks and the yards away from Nicks and also the completion from Eli and the yards from Eli....his check will be in the mail when the NFL changes the records.

**Ming the Merciless** · 09-22-2011, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

****ing hell.

Now the two teams that this affected want it put up to a vote by the league.

Dude there is no vote, they DECLINED the penalty - it is official.

Stats change all the time in the day or two after the game....this guy must be a noob.

**The Franchise** · 09-22-2011, 04:28 PM

Thats what I'm telling him.

09-22-2011, 03:52 PM
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09-22-2011, 04:10 PM	#16
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3125047	Nope....the stats on the website state that he Nicks has 4 receptions for 38 yards. He's saying that we have the power to overturn it because it shouldn't be a catch.
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09-22-2011, 04:12 PM	#17
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09-22-2011, 04:16 PM	#20
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3125047	Yeah....he's stating that they accepted the penalty...so it shouldn't be a catch. And in turn....he should still have the victory.
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09-22-2011, 04:19 PM	#22
ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	The Giants declined the penalty, which is why Nicks was given a reception and an additional 23 yards.
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09-22-2011, 04:20 PM	#25
ElGringo Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: Shreveport, La Casino cash: $9985100	If it were me, I would stick with what ever the official stats say. If the official stats say it is a catch, it is a catch, if the official stats say it is no catch, no catch. I don't really understand the debate. If done on pen and paper, without internet and all this technology, I would imagine that is the way it would be done. I don't play fantasy football, but from my understand it is just an accumulation of stats.
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09-22-2011, 04:22 PM	#26
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09-22-2011, 04:24 PM	#27
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3125047	****ing hell. Now the two teams that this affected want it put up to a vote by the league.
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09-22-2011, 04:28 PM	#30
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