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Old 02-20-2013, 05:53 PM   #1
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I can guarantee you that that is not the case. .
They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.

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How many mults do these trolls have? I mean, why even respond to a post that is laden with made-up bullshit.
A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:55 PM   #2
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They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.



A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.
Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.
And maybe nassib imo
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:36 PM   #4
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:54 AM   #5
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I may have missed it somewhere but has anyone discussed the possibility of KC trading UP to the middle/late 1st round to get a QB and keeping the #1 pick for BPA?

Also the only reason I can think that Dorsey is publically shitting on this QB group pre draft is so enough teams will pass on them and 1 or 2 may fall to the early 2nd.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:34 AM   #6
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I may have missed it somewhere but has anyone discussed the possibility of KC trading UP to the middle/late 1st round to get a QB and keeping the #1 pick for BPA?

Also the only reason I can think that Dorsey is publically shitting on this QB group pre draft is so enough teams will pass on them and 1 or 2 may fall to the early 2nd.


Seriously?

It's been discussed probably 1000 times.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:01 AM   #7
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Seriously?

It's been discussed probably 1000 times.
really ... i must of missed it.






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Old 02-21-2013, 11:29 AM   #8
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Seriously?

It's been discussed probably 1000 times.
I've seen people talking about trading down but not up from the 2nd to a mid first.
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I've seen people talking about trading down but not up from the 2nd to a mid first.
Even though I'm just messing with you, it has been discussed many, many times.
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I've seen people talking about trading down but not up from the 2nd to a mid first.
Trading down, will net us a bunch of extra picks. Trading back up into the mid 1st will COST us a bunch of extra picks. Apples and dingleberries.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:49 PM   #11
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Trading down, will net us a bunch of extra picks. Trading back up into the mid 1st will COST us a bunch of extra picks. Apples and dingleberries.
Our pick is untradeable.
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They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.



A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.
Yeah talent like Jake "I throw passes into the ****ing ground consistently", Blaine "I shit my pants against a 3 man rush with two slow, non pass rushing DEs playing 2-gap on the 5 tech" Gabbert and Christian "I am a worse QB than Andy Dalton"

You're out of your mind if you don't think teams are going to reach and justifiably so on the position most needed to be successful in today's NFL.
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Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.
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Yeah talent like Jake "I throw passes into the ****ing ground consistently", Blaine "I shit my pants against a 3 man rush with two slow, non pass rushing DEs playing 2-gap on the 5 tech" Gabbert and Christian "I am a worse QB than Andy Dalton"

You're out of your mind if you don't think teams are going to reach and justifiably so on the position most needed to be successful in today's NFL.
I see you ignored all of the qualifiers, let me reiterate for you.

A. If a team isn't at least 50/50 on the person being a legitimate starter
B. If the talent isn't there

We aren't going to reach on a guy who doesn't have talent, who we don't think has a chance to become a legitimate starter.

Its as simple as that. There is MAYBE 2 or 3 guys who could start next season in this draft, and most of those won't be immediate starters.

The fact that we have the first pick in the draft, and all of the buzz around us is how we're going to pickup Alex Smith or Nick Foles should at least be some kind of clue to the fact that nobody thinks there is a solid starter in this draft, at all.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:13 PM   #14
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I see you ignored all of the qualifiers, let me reiterate for you.

A. If a team isn't at least 50/50 on the person being a legitimate starter
B. If the talent isn't there

We aren't going to reach on a guy who doesn't have talent, who we don't think has a chance to become a legitimate starter.

Its as simple as that. There is MAYBE 2 or 3 guys who could start next season in this draft, and most of those won't be immediate starters.

The fact that we have the first pick in the draft, and all of the buzz around us is how we're going to pickup Alex Smith or Nick Foles should at least be some kind of clue to the fact that nobody thinks there is a solid starter in this draft, at all.
all the talk about foles and Alex Smith is going wild because that's what we have always done and we just hired the guy who drafted foles.

That's it.
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So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.
I just glanced at my crystal balls and saw the future. It goes down like this:

- The Chiefs will switch 1sts with the Eagles and Nick Foles will be among the compensation they'll get in return.

- The Chiefs will then draft EJ Manuel in the 4th. This way they can justify giving Foles more snaps in practice, but also develop Manuel as sort of a Cousins typr young back up.
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