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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:29 PM   #856
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:30 PM   #857
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All of this debate is useless at this point. He's as good as gone next year.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:31 PM   #858
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Aw, Pete.

You're so precious sometimes.
Hey I am not saying Cassel is great or anything. I am just saying for Bowe to be beasting as you put it, someone has to be getting him the ball or he has no chance at those yards to begin with.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:32 PM   #859
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Hey I am not saying Cassel is great or anything. I am just saying for Bowe to be beasting as you put it, someone has to be getting him the ball or he has no chance at those yards to begin with.
Cassel can't throw the ball down the ****ing field, you idiot.

He hinders Bowe. He doesn't help.

Any idiot can throw a 5-yard slant and watch Bowe take it 50 yards.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:32 PM   #860
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I am just saying that Bowe gets all these yards and people are comparing him to the best in the league yet when it comes to the guy throwing him the ball we have the worst in the league. Seems to me it can't be both...most likley Cassel isn't quite as bad as some say.
Bowe has produced while catching shit from a SMORGASBORD of terrible QBs.

If you want to lick Cassel's nutsack, then pick another QB. Bowe did stuff with ALL of them.

Or are you ready to say, "Very likely Tyler Thigpen wasn't as bad of a QB as people around here think"
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:32 PM   #861
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People have a tendency to pick out an aberrational number to support an argument.

The fact remains, in a run first offense, he hasn't produced the same numbers as Bowe.
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All of this debate is useless at this point. He's as good as gone next year.
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Is it unreasonable to ask Bowe to have more than 5 tds if he wants more than 100 million?

I'd be willing to bet that if Bowe has a good year, his pay will reflect it and he won't go anywhere.
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Cassel can't throw the ball down the ****ing field, you idiot.

He hinders Bowe. He doesn't help.

Any idiot can throw a 5-yard slant and watch Bowe take it 50 yards.
So all of bowe's catches are 5 yard slants? Not what I saw in the Vikings game last year. Just sayin'
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Is it unreasonable to ask Bowe to have more than 5 tds if he wants more than 100 million?
Fitzgerald has 14 TD in 2 years.

Bowe has 20.
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So all of bowe's catches are 5 yard slants? Not what I saw in the Vikings game last year. Just sayin'
Cassel isn't special.

We could find a lot of guys to throw the shitty passes he serves up.

He deserves no credit for Bowe's success.
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Is it unreasonable to ask Bowe to have more than 5 tds if he wants more than 100 million?

I'd be willing to bet that if Bowe has a good year, his pay will reflect it and he won't go anywhere.
But if he hadn't have dropped two more tds, and if he wasn't a knee and instant replay from scoring another he would have had 8.


I'm for giving the guy a ton of money, but those reasons were ignorant
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Is it unreasonable to ask Bowe to have more than 5 tds if he wants more than 100 million?

I'd be willing to bet that if Bowe has a good year, his pay will reflect it and he won't go anywhere.
There's always the chance that this process has soured Bowe on staying in KC.
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Bowe has produced while catching shit from a SMORGASBORD of terrible QBs.

If you want to lick Cassel's nutsack, then pick another QB. Bowe did stuff with ALL of them.

Or are you ready to say, "Very likely Tyler Thigpen wasn't as bad of a QB as people around here think"
Bowe's best year was 2010. Who was the QB?
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