Chiefs Revisiting "JC needs more carries"

**DaFace** · 09-26-2010, 08:17 PM

After watching today's game, I've decided that I am 100% behind the balance the Chiefs are running between JC and TJ. While Charles consistently has a higher YPC than Jones, I think that would fall dramatically if the ratio were changed. Jones does a great job of consistently gaining a few yards every carry, then we can bring in fresh legs in Charles to try and occasionally break off a long run.

That said, I wasn't really all that against the ratio before. Did today's game change any of you "JC needs more carries" proponents' opinions, or do you still think that he should be getting more?

RJ · 09-26-2010, 08:19 PM

JC needs more carries.

-King- · 09-26-2010, 08:20 PM

Apparently not http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=234211

keg in kc · 09-26-2010, 08:21 PM

I think Charles should have a few more touches, about 20/game would be the 'perfect world' number to me, but at the same time I wouldn't have changed anything about today's game. That was about as good as it gets as far as substitution and playcalling.

Marcellus · 09-26-2010, 08:23 PM

I WANT to see JC every down, but I realize you can't do that for 16 games. It is working.

Both had close to 100 yards against a defense that was supposed to stop the run game.

Hard to argue against results though some will try.

The bottom line is Chiefs fans, me included want a heavy hitter. #1 runner in the NFL. Prestige that comes with a big time player. Big talk, big time. Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson. FF type guys.

It seems the coaching staff is worrying more about team.

LaChapelle · 09-26-2010, 08:25 PM

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**Shogun** · 09-26-2010, 08:36 PM

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Pioli Zombie · 09-26-2010, 08:27 PM

Of all the things that can be a problem for a football team the Chiefs running has got to be last on the list. What they are doing is working perfectly. What is the effen problem?????

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2010, 08:29 PM

I think he needs to have 50 percent or more until someone keeps him below 7 yards per carry.

**Buehler445** · 09-26-2010, 08:33 PM

Charles needs more, but today was much MUCH better.
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philfree · 09-26-2010, 08:33 PM

Charles had 15 touchs counting his three receptions for 154 total yards. That's five less touches then Jones. To me it's working but I'm sure there will be a game where the big plays are there and they'll feed Charles the rock . We're ony three games in so perhaps as the season unfolds the touches balance out to even.

PhilFree

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2010, 08:35 PM

Charles did get the start, incidentally. I thought that was interesting.

I also noticed that he may have been in for half the plays, but he was often running routes on passing downs and not getting it thrown his way. He may have had half the snaps.

Calitozoni · 09-26-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Charles did get the start, incidentally. I thought that was interesting.

I also noticed that he may have been in for half the plays, but he was often running routes on passing downs and not getting it thrown his way. He may have had half the snaps.

I noticed it too. I thought his presence helped the passing game. Opposing defenses are afraid of JC.

**luv** · 09-26-2010, 08:47 PM

Today made me change my mind. Not sure what is was about it. TJ is definitely the power back to run up the gut, and JC is better at running the outside or eluding tackles. I liked the ratio today. It worked.

chief52 · 09-26-2010, 08:51 PM

It is a long season. Haley is making personel decisions based on the season, not the individual game. Everyone has to be a part of that in order for the Chiefs to be winners...

09-26-2010, 08:17 PM	Topic Starter
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2036899	Revisiting "JC needs more carries" After watching today's game, I've decided that I am 100% behind the balance the Chiefs are running between JC and TJ. While Charles consistently has a higher YPC than Jones, I think that would fall dramatically if the ratio were changed. Jones does a great job of consistently gaining a few yards every carry, then we can bring in fresh legs in Charles to try and occasionally break off a long run. That said, I wasn't really all that against the ratio before. Did today's game change any of you "JC needs more carries" proponents' opinions, or do you still think that he should be getting more?
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3092662	I WANT to see JC every down, but I realize you can't do that for 16 games. It is working. Both had close to 100 yards against a defense that was supposed to stop the run game. Hard to argue against results though some will try. The bottom line is Chiefs fans, me included want a heavy hitter. #1 runner in the NFL. Prestige that comes with a big time player. Big talk, big time. Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson. FF type guys. It seems the coaching staff is worrying more about team.
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	I think he needs to have 50 percent or more until someone keeps him below 7 yards per carry. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3328491 VARSITY	Charles did get the start, incidentally. I thought that was interesting. I also noticed that he may have been in for half the plays, but he was often running routes on passing downs and not getting it thrown his way. He may have had half the snaps. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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luv MY LITTLE #15 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $6239600	Today made me change my mind. Not sure what is was about it. TJ is definitely the power back to run up the gut, and JC is better at running the outside or eluding tackles. I liked the ratio today. It worked.
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09-26-2010, 08:51 PM	#15
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