Chiefs Parallel world: What would you give up in this off-season trade?

Frankie · 11-10-2010, 10:32 PM

Play this scenario for shits and giggles. Suppose the Dallas Cowboys in a mad tearing up and rebuilding mode offer us a package of two of their players?

1- Which two would you want and what would you give them?

2- If those two players are D'Marcus Ware and Dez Bryant (Miles Austin?) what would you give up?

This has been gnawing at me since I posted a tongue-in-cheek mention of those two players in the other Cowboys thread.

For question 2 would you keep the 1st in the next draft for a QBOTF and give up the rest of the draft?

OK it's late at night and I'm posting this in a sleepy head mode, so keep your derogatory comments to yourself if you don't want to play.

Tylerthigpen!1! · 11-10-2010, 10:49 PM

Two firsts and a second tier player of the same position. It would take a ton more than that though. I wouldn't mess up a good thing. I would (as I'm sure the rest of CP would too) trade a some serious effing drafts picks for a QBOTF.

jd1020 · 11-10-2010, 10:52 PM

I wouldnt want anything from the Cowboys. Their entire team has quit mid season. Why in the hell would I want to trade for any sad excuse of a professional on that team. Can't say I blame them though if you take into account the bafoon they had for a coach. When something bad against his team happened he always had a look on his face like he was trying to figure out if the cupcakes he screwed up last night asked for 1 tsp of salt or 2. Then when something good happened he always celebrated like it happened by accident. The guy didnt have a clue. Then when the one player on the team who actually has any ideas (Romo) gets hurt they all quit because its obviously not worth playing the game anymore. When you make Jerry eat his words you know its bad.

booger · 11-10-2010, 11:06 PM

Jerry jones can't afford to "tear down" and rebuild like Herm did, not that it would even fit his style of ownership/management. He has to fill Jerryworld and trading two of his best players sure isn't going to draw fans.

Why in the world would he trade one of the best pass rushers in the game? Seriously? Five and a half seasons into his career and he has 72.5 sacks. That would be like trading Derrick thomas at that stage of his career.

They just drafted bryant #1 in 2010. he is having a good year. why trade him? Same with Austin who just got a contract ext. Jones will make Cowher, Gruden, or one of those types one of the highest paid coaches in the nfl. I'm sure the idea of trading one or two of their best players would not go well in drawing a top HC.

A more realistic chance is if they are to try and trade WR Roy Williams and LOLB Anthony Spencer and neither would be top players. Spencer as competition would be ok depending on the compensation.

lay off the peyote

**Rain Man** · 11-10-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Why in the world would he trade one of the best pass rushers in the game? Seriously? Five and a half seasons into his career and he has 72.5 sacks. That would be like trading Derrick thomas at that stage of his career.

Or trading Jared Allen while he's still ascending. Insane.

booger · 11-10-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Or trading Jared Allen while he's still ascending. Insane.

pretty different circumstances w/ allen and CP.

**2112** · 11-10-2010, 11:53 PM

In this bizzarro world can we get Frankies typing fingers cut off by a cookie monster?

jspchief · 11-11-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112

In this bizzarro world can we get Frankies typing fingers cut off by a cookie monster?

In Bizarro world, I'll even do the cutting. fingers, then head.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-10-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Or trading Jared Allen while he's still ascending. Insane.

Not really.

Plus, Allen would have been gone the second Pioli was hired and it's quite possible that the compensation and players drafted in 2009 wouldn't have been nearly as talented as those in 2008. Especially considering the 2009 draft, overall, has turned out be extremely weak.

Fritz88 · 11-11-2010, 12:09 AM

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Especially considering the 2009 draft, overall, has turned out be extremely weak.

Jake O'Connell was a steal. He's making huge contributions with STs.

Frankie · 11-11-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Not really.

Plus, Allen would have been gone the second Pioli was hired and it's quite possible that the compensation and players drafted in 2009 wouldn't have been nearly as talented as those in 2008. Especially considering the 2009 draft, overall, has turned out be extremely weak.

Plus the silver lining in the Allen trade was it hastened Carl and Herm's departure.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-11-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Plus the silver lining in the Allen trade was it hastened Carl and Herm's departure.

I don't believe that at all.

What hastened their departure was a 4-12 record followed by a 2-14 and a new owner finishing up his second season.

Changes were coming regardless of the Allen trade. They had been overdue for a decade.

And the trade was a win for the Chiefs.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-10-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Jerry jones can't afford to "tear down" and rebuild like Herm did, not that it would even fit his style of ownership/management. He has to fill Jerryworld and trading two of his best players sure isn't going to draw fans.

Why in the world would he trade one of the best pass rushers in the game? Seriously? Five and a half seasons into his career and he has 72.5 sacks. That would be like trading Derrick thomas at that stage of his career.

They just drafted bryant #1 in 2010. he is having a good year. why trade him? Same with Austin who just got a contract ext. Jones will make Cowher, Gruden, or one of those types one of the highest paid coaches in the nfl. I'm sure the idea of trading one or two of their best players would not go well in drawing a top HC.

A more realistic chance is if they are to try and trade WR Roy Williams and LOLB Anthony Spencer and neither would be top players. Spencer as competition would be ok depending on the compensation.

lay off the peyote

This.

There's no way Jerry is trading a first rounder WR or a one of the best linebackers in the game.

Furthermore, Ware's on IR and no one knows how well he'll recover.

**HemiEd** · 11-11-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This.

There's no way Jerry is trading a first rounder WR or a one of the best linebackers in the game.

Furthermore, Ware's on IR and no one knows how well he'll recover.

Maybe the Colts would trade Manning to the Chiefs then?

jd1020 · 11-11-2010, 01:47 PM

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Maybe the Colts would trade Manning to the Chiefs then?

Maybe they wont have to and the Chiefs will just sign him! Cassel was worth $63m how much do you think Manning would get? He'd make Brady's contract look like a custodians wages.

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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7722645	I wouldnt want anything from the Cowboys. Their entire team has quit mid season. Why in the hell would I want to trade for any sad excuse of a professional on that team. Can't say I blame them though if you take into account the bafoon they had for a coach. When something bad against his team happened he always had a look on his face like he was trying to figure out if the cupcakes he screwed up last night asked for 1 tsp of salt or 2. Then when something good happened he always celebrated like it happened by accident. The guy didnt have a clue. Then when the one player on the team who actually has any ideas (Romo) gets hurt they all quit because its obviously not worth playing the game anymore. When you make Jerry eat his words you know its bad. Last edited by jd1020; 11-10-2010 at 11:00 PM..
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