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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I have a number of fears about switching back to the 4-3.

1. It creates some major needs on defense. The last time we switched schemes we used the #3 pick on Tyson Jackson... Would have to see a defense "need" prevent us from taking a QB.

2. When you look at all the DC names we heard of most of them run the cover 2. I think that's an outdated defense, especially against running qbs. While I'd love to have Lovie Smith, I don't want to see the cover two back in KC.

It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It doesn't create needs, it just moves them.

Right now we need to 3 'box' defenders; 2 DEs and an ILB. If we switched to the 4-3, we'd need 2 'box' defenders, IMO and 3 at worst - 2 OLBs and maybe a NT. Houston and Hali would move to DEs with Poe in the undertackle role. I think Powe could be a very good 4-3 Nose, so I'm not sure that's a true need if you switch to a 4-3.

It doesn't create any holes, it just moves them. We did a shit job at converting to the 3-4 anyway; most of the guys we had in it weren't all that well suited for it and one guy that was (Jackson) actually sucked a great deal. I'd go back to the 4-3 and focus on creating pressure from my down lineman like the Giants did to win the SB.

Rapoti is good to go at 34RDE and Tyson J is far from suckage at 34LDE. you put these men in a 1 plus 2 gap scheme and they will get you pressure along with Poe up the middle. Add in Hali/Houston and you have a pass rush.

You swap this team out to 43 D and you have to start over in the pass rush dept.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Rapoti is good to go at 34RDE and Tyson J is far from suckage at 34RDE. you put these men in a 1/2 gap scheme and they will get you pressure. Add in Hali/Houston and you have a pass rush.

You swap this team out to 43 D and you have to start over in the pass rush dept.

Huh?

Did we watch the same team last year?

No, Pitoitua is not 'good go go'; he's an adequate stop gap that should be no more than a situational player. He's only 'good to go' if you mean 'the hell away'. He's exceptionally replaceable.

As to Jackson, no, he is not far from suckage. He is an awful football player who has no technique and a pretty lousy motor.

And finally, no, they would not have to start over at pass-rusher if they converted to a 4-3 - they have Hali and Houston. Houston is a better version of Chris Clemons and Hali is the same guy that was drafted as a 4-3 DE, only now he's stronger than he used to be and has developed legitimate pass-rush moves. He's probably losing his first step a bit, however, so he's actually probably better suited to move back to the D-line as a down lineman where his route to the QB won't be quite as long as it is as a standup backer.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Huh?

Did we watch the same team last year?

No, Pitoitua is not 'good go go'; he's an adequate stop gap that should be no more than a situational player. He's only 'good to go' if you mean 'the hell away'. He's exceptionally replaceable.

As to Jackson, no, he is not far from suckage. He is an awful football player who has no technique and a pretty lousy motor.

And finally, no, they would not have to start over at pass-rusher if they converted to a 4-3 - they have Hali and Houston. Houston is a better version of Chris Clemons and Hali is the same guy that was drafted as a 4-3 DE, only now he's stronger than he used to be and has developed legitimate pass-rush moves. He's probably losing his first step a bit, however, so he's actually probably better suited to move back to the D-line as a down lineman where his route to the QB won't be quite as long as it is as a standup backer.

They are going to switch to more one gapping and Rapoti/TJ are athletic enough to get pressure in that type defense. Having Poe also gives flexibility to rotate and he can motor also.

The thing about 1 gapping DE's is that when you have a guy with 4 foot long arms, he has a lot of range in the pocket. Rapoti is a guy I have followed a bit. Trust me, he's got tools in the one gap.

Your points on Jackson are tired. I'm not going to address them since this is really just a dead horse. If the guy is so bad, they'll cut him. He's no star, but he's decent.