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Old 02-28-2013, 09:29 AM  
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I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

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The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #91
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:55 AM   #92
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If Alex Smith went to Buffalo would anybody have run to Vegas to put money down on the Bills making the playoffs or Super Bowl? How about Arizona?

I bet not, because he isn't anything special at all. You would have said, "Smith isn't good enough to get the Bills over the hump, I can't believe that sad sack organization gave up an early 2nd and an additional 2/3. When will they learn?"


This, by a large margin, is the best way to explain to a True Fan, or anyone else, why trading for Alex Smith is such a crappy idea.

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:56 AM   #93
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I agree with you in that I'm trying to look at the positives in this. I was not enamored by the trade. I never thought much of Smith. However, if Smith can come in here and be the next version of Joe Montana (Chiefs version) or Trent Green I think we will all forget about our disappointment in this trade. I'm hoping the last 2 years' version of Alex Smith was not a fluke and will continue with good coaching by Reid. If not, well then everyone can say they were right. Ugghh.

I'm also going to be pissed if Geno Smith goes on to be a great NFL QB. And it will be especially painful if he does that for a team like the Raiders.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #94
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I'm not yelling at you Lzen......

But Alex Smith is not Trent Green. Even if Alex Smith's last two years weren't a fluke....they were AVERAGE at best. Matt Cassel had a better season in 2010 than Alex Smith HAS EVER HAD.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #95
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I agree with you in that I'm trying to look at the positives in this. I was not enamored by the trade. I never thought much of Smith. However, if Smith can come in here and be the next version of Joe Montana (Chiefs version) or Trent Green I think we will all forget about our disappointment in this trade. I'm hoping the last 2 years' version of Alex Smith was not a fluke and will continue with good coaching by Reid. If not, well then everyone can say they were right. Ugghh.

I'm also going to be pissed if Geno Smith goes on to be a great NFL QB. And it will be especially painful if he does that for a team like the Raiders.
Seriously? You'll be happy if he's Trent Green? How many playoff wins did that get us again?

I'm tired of people acting like Trent was some great QB. He was serviceable. He wasn't a franchise QB and he was never going to be 'great'.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:03 AM   #96
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Seriously? You'll be happy if he's Trent Green? How many playoff wins did that get us again?

I'm tired of people acting like Trent was some great QB. He was serviceable. He wasn't a franchise QB and he was never going to be 'great'.
Defense. Trent was never the reason we lost games...
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Defense. Trent was never the reason we lost games...
ALEX SMITH IS NOT TRENT GREEN.
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There is a shit-ton of truth to that. I am amazed that, somehow, we went from Carl Peterson to Scott ***** to John Dorsey, and apparently, they were all the same brand of guy. I don't want to demonize Dorsey too soon, but two 2nds for Alex Smith is a massive WTF sort of deja vu. The only constant in that GM equation - Clark Hunt
According to the reports, the 2014 pick is conditional, and is only a 2nd if we make the playoffs. Is that a bad thing?
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If Smith was so good and clutch, Harbough would of kept him and never drafted Kap in the first place

He has been a mediocre qb throughout his career, even Harbough knew he was limited

That is what I don't understand. Why is he good enough when the guy who got the most out of him didn't even fully believe in him?
kaep was jims hand picked guy. Alex Smith was already there, and his care taker.
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According to the reports, the 2014 pick is conditional, and is only a 2nd if we make the playoffs. Is that a bad thing?
Is it a bad thing that we make the playoffs? Yeah....because two things will happen.

1. We'll get ****ing destroyed by actual teams (see Broncos, Ravens, Patriots or Texans)

2. Alex Smith will get a contract extension (if he hasn't already by then).
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kaep was jims hand picked guy. Alex Smith was already there, and his care taker.
Kaepernick was drafted because Harbaugh knew Smith wasn't the QB to lead him to a Superbowl victory.
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Defense. Trent was never the reason we lost games...
He also wasn't the reason we won games. Willie Roaf, Will Shields, Priest Holmes (and in 2003 Dante Hall) were the reason.
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Just admit that you're ****ing scared to draft a rookie QB.
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He doesn't have to. Hes a Real Fan.
Yes I am, I live and breath the Chiefs, I take the good and the bad.
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I'm not pissed at Alex Smith the player. I accepted the fact as soon as the rumors started that he was probably coming here. I'm pissed at the compensation that we gave up and how it basically ****s us when it comes to the draft.....just like 2009.
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