I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

People should read this. Slowly. Then re-read it.

Whether or not Quinn is any good remains to be seen. The only thing that is certain is Quinn has never had a legitimate chance in the NFL. 11 starts in your first two years on the worst franchise in football doesn't tell you much.

My guess is, however, we're still looking at drafting a QB next year. And I'm guessing it's in the 2nd round.

You gotta look at what we can't see. What about Mike Holmgren's point of view? He's seen more good QBs come and go than almost anyone. He shipped him out of town for virtually nothing. You don't do that with franchise QBs. He picked up Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy because Brady Quinn sucked. Also, don't forget about 102 year old Jake Delhomme. He wanted him over Quinn too.

Then think about how the Broncos cut Orton and started Tebow last year. Orton almost took us to the playoffs and Quinn rode the pine. John Fox looked at Brady Quinn and said to himself, "we got no shot with this kid."

I guess what I am trying to say is that Brady Quinn sucks worse than all of those guys above. People that know QBs and more than one coach have said "no way" to Quinn. He's out of chances. He's not here for a chance.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

You gotta look at what we can't see. What about Mike Holmgren's point of view? He's seen more good QBs come and go than almost anyone. He shipped him out of town for virtually nothing. You don't do that with franchise QBs. He picked up Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy because Brady Quinn sucked. Also, don't forget about 102 year old Jake Delhomme. He wanted him over Quinn too.

Then think about how the Broncos cut Orton and started Tebow last year. Orton almost took us to the playoffs and Quinn rode the pine. John Fox looked at Brady Quinn and said to himself, "we got no shot with this kid."

I guess what I am trying to say is that Brady Quinn sucks worse than all of those guys above. People that know QBs and more than one coach have said "no way" to Quinn. He's out of chances. He's not here for a chance.

John Fox looked at Quinn and said they have no shot with him? That's why they were designing packages for Quinn going into the playoffs last year because they knew Tebow couldn't pass if they needed him to.

And Holmgren....who knows QBs....went with Wallace and McCoy? That says a lot about Holmgren. You know....the same guy that just drafted a 29 year old rookie QB in the 1st round. Yep....QB guru.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

John Fox looked at Quinn and said they have no shot with him? That's why they were designing packages for Quinn going into the playoffs last year because they knew Tebow couldn't pass if they needed him to.

And Holmgren....who knows QBs....went with Wallace and McCoy? That says a lot about Holmgren. You know....the same guy that just drafted a 29 year old rookie QB in the 1st round. Yep....QB guru.

Stupid ****ing post....again.....

Brady Quinn couldn't run Tebow's offense. It's pretty ****ing obvious. Running QBs are likely to get hurt. Quinn had to be prepared. The Patriot's defense was terrible. Why didn't he put Quinn in there and let him sling it around? THE SCORE WAS 35-7 PATRIOTS AT HALF TIME.

As for Holmgren, don't forget about Jake Delhomme. He aquired him and Mangini started him. I agree about Weedan and I think he'll suck. However, Holmgren's job was on the line and he had to do something desperate.

Stupid ****ing post man.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

Stupid ****ing post....again.....

Brady Quinn couldn't run Tebow's offense. It's pretty ****ing obvious. Running QBs are likely to get hurt. Quinn had to be prepared. The Patriot's defense was terrible. Why didn't he put Quinn in there and let him sling it around? THE SCORE WAS 35-7 PATRIOTS AT HALF TIME.

As for Holmgren, don't forget about Jake Delhomme. He aquired him and Mangini started him. I agree about Weedan and I think he'll suck. However, Holmgren's job was on the line and he had to do something desperate.

Stupid ****ing post man.

The pass plays were for the Wild Card game against the Steelers. After Tebow won that game.....there was no way Fox was pulling Tebow.

If there's always fire where there's smoke, then Denver Broncos fans should expect to see Brady Quinn on the field Sunday vs. the Pittsburgh Steelers. Fox's Jay Glazer is the latest to report that the Broncos have packages for Quinn on third down passing situations.

With Quinn never having thrown a pass in a regular season game for the Denver Broncos, head coach John Fox will be opening himself up to a lot of second guessing if this experiment goes haywire. But on the other hand, the Broncos offense has looked recently like it could use a spark in the passing game.

You're going to go with Delhomme as proof that Holmgren is a QB guru? JFC.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

The pass plays were for the Wild Card game against the Steelers. After Tebow won that game.....there was no way Fox was pulling Tebow.



You're going to go with Delhomme as proof that Holmgren is a QB guru? JFC.

So it was just for the Steelers? You are saying that Quinn was going to run that flex offense if Tebow got hurt?

Just like the Chiefs, Holmgren couldn't find a QB. The point is that all of those guys were better options than Quinn and he knew it. There were no QBs worth a shit so he found a couple with experience who could manage games.

Holmgren worked as a QB coach in San Francisco with Montana, Young, and Bono. In Green Bay, he developed Favre, Brunell, Detmer, and Hasselbeck.

He knows how to develop QBs. When he pulled the curtain on Quinn, he did it for a reason. I don't know if he knows how to find talent, but he definately knows how to develop it. He knew Wallace was beter than Quinn.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

So it was just for the Steelers? You are saying that Quinn was going to run that flex offense if Tebow got hurt?

Just like the Chiefs, Holmgren couldn't find a QB. The point is that all of those guys were better options than Quinn and he knew it. There were no QBs worth a shit so he found a couple with experience who could manage games.

Holmgren worked as a QB coach in San Francisco with Montana, Young, and Bono. In Green Bay, he developed Favre, Brunell, Detmer, and Hasselbeck.

He knows how to develop QBs. When he pulled the curtain on Quinn, he did it for a reason. I don't know if he knows how to find talent, but he definately knows how to develop it. He knew Wallace was beter than Quinn.

Did you read the article that I quoted? He wasn't going to run the flex offense. He was going to come in on obvious 3rd down passing situations. Tebow kept the game close....so they didn't need to bring him in.

I know who the **** Holmgren worked with. I was just questioning why the **** you brought up Delhomme as your QB instead of any of the QBs you just mentioned now. And honestly....since Hasselbeck....he hasn't developed shit at QB.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

. And honestly....since Hasselbeck....he hasn't developed shit at QB.

Maybe that's because he's not coaching dumbass. GM's don't develop players. Go back and read my post. He had no faith in Quinn so he signed Delhomme. An old ass QB who could run an offense. He was desperate.

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Like I said.....I'm not expecting Quinn to be the QBoTF. I think he can hold the position down for at least another year....so long as we draft a QB next year. He'd be a cheaper option as well.

What position? #2 QB?

It's going to be funny when Cassel has a good year. Some of you will still hate him but it will be funny when we keep passing on QBs next year in the draft.

He's going to have a good year.