**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Spoiler!

1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. 1 p.m.
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 8 p.m.
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 8 p.m.
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas 3 p.m.
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas 6 p.m.
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 7 p.m.
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. 6:30 p.m.
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 8 p.m.
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 7 p.m.
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. 11 a.m.
Big 12 Championship
3/12-15/2014 TBD Kansas City, Mo. TBD Details

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

College basketball this early has always been tough to watch, but with the new fouling rules in place, it's really some awful stuff. I know what the NCAA was intending to do, but it's completely backfired on their sport. They ****ed up and everyone is worse for it.

As for the actual game, KU played pretty terribly. It didn't help that the constant stoppages hurt their home advantage, but there was no defensive intensity at all, they didn't even force many bad shots from ULM, and they didn't get out running on the fast break more than a few times (which is partially a product of their defense being so poor). It turns out life is tougher when you don't have a 7 footer with great timing bailing you out on every possession. The team's offense should look better when Tharpe returns, but defense is going to be the real problem for this team over the next few months.

Wiggins is a special talent with the ball in his hands, but he's got to be more assertive on the court (on both ends) and Self has to find a way to better utilize his abilities as the season goes on. Embiid showed his flashes of talent in the few minutes he played, but the intensity also wasn't there with him tonight.

As for the returning guys, it was good to see that Ellis and White were solid. They will be important players on this team if they keep contributing like that.

This is going to be hard for some people to grasp but these 1 and done guys (esp someone that's supposed to go 1 overall in the next NBAdraft) aren't going to risk their future on 1 year of college. I hate the 1 and done rule, I think college players shouldn't be able to jump to the NBA until after their Jr season. We won't see a whole lot of intensity from Wiggins this season. That's just my opinion. He won't be a Josh Selby kind of disappointment, but I think he'll be a Xavier Henry type player...maybe a little better. We'll see some brilliance for the guy...a few games here n there where he'll drop 30, and then some others he'll disappear and score 4-6pts.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Should have gave Frank his money. They've made their own bed with that assclown Weber and now they have to lie in it.

I think it was more than that. Frank and the AD did not see eye to eye, IIRC.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Pants

I think it was more than that. Frank and the AD did not see eye to eye, IIRC.

Should have fired the AD instead, then.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

This is going to be hard for some people to grasp but these 1 and done guys (esp someone that's supposed to go 1 overall in the next NBAdraft) aren't going to risk their future on 1 year of college. I hate the 1 and done rule, I think college players shouldn't be able to jump to the NBA until after their Jr season. We won't see a whole lot of intensity from Wiggins this season. That's just my opinion.

Don't know what this generalization is based on. Did Anthony Davis not play with intensity when he dominated the NCAA in a way the sport hadn't seen in over a decade and singlehandedly carried his team to a national title?

He won't be a Josh Selby kind of disappointment, but I think he'll be a Xavier Henry type player...maybe a little better. We'll see some brilliance for the guy...a few games here n there where he'll drop 30, and then some others he'll disappear and score 4-6pts.

I have no idea what to expect at this point with him. But I'm definitely not about to make any sort of definitive predictions about somebody who is clearly as talented as him (and he's way above Henry in that regard). He's just got to find and harness the competitive fire within him. For some of these super talented guys, that never comes in college. For others, it does. All we can do is wait and see.

[Buehler445]

Ouch for KSU.

As hilarious as it is to see them bomb out under Weber (I didn't think it would be quite this fast), KU was better when KSU was respectable. They really pushed us a few of those years, and the more we have to fight to win, the better.

KSU needs to move on from Weber yesterday.

[Buehler445]

As for the game, couldn't they just implement this type of officiating in the B1G? That's where most of the worst offenders are (exempting KSU). I agree with KCC. They've boned themselves. Hopefully they'll do this for a couple games and then lighten it up when the games matter. It seems like I remember them doing it for some other rule.

Yeah, the team defense is shit. Pure shit. And it didn't seem like we ever got in a rhythm offensively to offset it. I don't know what Duke is bringing, but unless they're all n00bs like we are, they beat us by 20.

Man, there is a lot to like about this team, but they're miles away from beating anybody that matters.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Ceej

Also, the Morris twins are having a really good start to the season.

'kieff with 28 and 10 tonight.

Cannot believe how good a pro he's becoming. I never saw that one coming.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I just hope we get the max out of these guys offensively and defensively of course. We are loaded with fire power, I hope they are used as such. No Connor Teahans on this team thankfully. It's early but I don't want a Ferrari with a 4 cylinder engine under the hood, both offensively and defensively. Get the most out of this roster. In January this should be a dangerous team.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I hope we use the shit out of Wiggins, Jamaal Charles style, for his only year he's here. He's too talented.

[Bambi]

Should be interesting to see KU with their starting point guard Tuesday.

Get ready for a war.

[Bambi]

Tears in Titletown tonight.

[chiefsfan987]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Should have fired the AD instead, then.

Why would they do that? He's a great AD. The fact that their athletic program is as well rounded as it is in a place like Manhattan is incredible. He runs circles around Zenger. If they want to fire him I'd love for him to come to KU.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

Why would they do that? He's a great AD. The fact that their athletic program is as well rounded as it is in a place like Manhattan is incredible. He runs circles around Zenger. If they want to fire him I'd love for him to come to KU.

That AD destroyed any semblance of a successful basketball program they had because of a feud with the coach. Sounds like a real great one, indeed.

[chiefsfan987]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

That AD destroyed any semblance of a successful basketball program they had because of a feud with the coach. Sounds like a real great one, indeed.

He hired a coach that won a Big 12 title in basketball for the first time ever in his first season and one that won a title for their team for the first time since 1977. Regardless of what happens this year, that doesn't change that. KSU's basketball program is not going to go to shambles because of one bad year. They are competitive in every sport they play and they're making money doing it. He's doing a hell of a job.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

He hired a coach that won a Big 12 title in basketball for the first time ever in his first season and one that won a title for their team for the first time since 1977. Regardless of what happens this year, that doesn't change that. KSU's basketball program is not going to go to shambles because of one bad year. They are competitive in every sport they play and they're making money doing it. He's doing a hell of a job.

He took Illinois to the final 4 his first year and was eventually fired because he sucked.