****Official **** You Mike Mayock Thread****

[In58men]

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The Kansas City Chiefs need a quarterback, but there aren't any this season that look like a top-ten talent, much less a No. 1 overall pick.

The way Mike Mayock sees it, the Chiefs should be looking to the offensive line for their first overall pick. And there are only four players worth the No. 1 overall pick in this draft for Kansas City: Alabama guard Chance Warmack, UNC guard Jonathan Cooper, Texas A&M tackle Luke Joekel, or Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Mayock said on a conference call Monday that some people will say he's crazy to potentially take a guard at No. 1 overall, but Mayock says Warmack is the best player in this draft. So he doesn't see it as crazy at all.

In the end, Mayock believes the pick could come down to Joekel or Warmack. This is a draft where the top-shelf players don't stand apart too much, and there may not be a huge difference between picks 5 and 25. That makes it a tricky spot for the Chiefs.

Don't be surprised if Kansas City builds from the inside out, and finds their quarterback of the future later.



He gives the Chiefs 4 options at #1 and they're all offensive lineman? Go **** yourself bro

@Jacobs71: Here is what Mayock said on #Chiefs pick in full "Well, part of it depends on what they're going to do with free agency and Branden Albert."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think the answer to that, obviously, is going to give you the answer. Sitting where they are, let's face it, they need a QB."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"We don't know that there are a lot of people who think Geno Smith is in that ballpark."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't, but there are a lot of people that think he should be considered."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"When you look at what they're going to do, what are they going to do with Dwayne Bowe?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" Whoever the quarterback is, they need a wide receiver. And I think John Dorsey has to be thinking what is the big picture here?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I've got one, and I've got 34. What is the best combination of getting the most value out of that?"

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"And I think that offensive lineman at 1 is the most solid guy they can go with."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I don't care whether it's Warmack or Joeckel. People will tell me I'm crazy that a guard can't go No. 1."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think he's the best player in the draft, so I would argue that."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:" But either way, I think they've got to get an offensive lineman and come back at 33 and prepare to go with a QB or WR."

@Jacobs71: When I asked Mayock about who fits Reid's system at QB: " I think Matt Barkley makes a lot of sense."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" He's a guy as a junior at USC looked so much different than he did this year."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"With Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson, I think all three of those guys you have to go back and watch junior tape. "

@Jacobs71: Mayock:" So I think Barkley fits what he does. I think Ryan Nassib fits what he does."


@Jacobs71: Mayock:"I think Landry Jones and Tyler Wilson both can fit what he does."

@Jacobs71: Mayock:"So of those, that group of guys of the top seven, eight quarterbacks, I think those are the guys that did it most efficiently."

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Yeah, sure it is.

Look, I know it was a simple typo and it's the kind of thing that all of us do from time to time, but when you call someone stupid, you should really double check your spelling.

i'm pretty sure it is.

[patteeu]

Every fair weather fan has a reason for abandoning their team when it's down. The fact that you guys can explain your reasons for finally moving on doesn't distinguish you.

[O.city]

When exactly has KC been fair weather? Times haven't been good in over a decade.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

My Dad doesn't have an NFL team. If anything, I've turned him into a Chiefs fan rather than the other way around. Most of my extended family roots for the Bears, except for my cousins that live in KC and root for the Chiefs (they weren't raised Chief fans either, just became fans when they moved there).

I don't think it's fair to say I've ALWAYS had one foot out the door. I was as die-hard as they come in the 1990's, but became extremely disillusioned when Carl hired Gunther.

It's been one big mistake after another ever since, so that's really on the team, not on me.

In other words, you were as die-hard as they come when the team was good, but your interest started to diminish when they weren't as good. I can't remember what that's called.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

When exactly has KC been fair weather? Times haven't been good in over a decade.

It's a stupid premise. Pay it no mind.

[O.city]

I believe fair weather would mean said person would come back when they get good again.

[The Franchise]

If they trade for Nick Foles....he gets 3-4 games.....tops.

He doesn't have the excuse of a completely different coaching staff. His QB coach became his OC and he still has the same head coach. He will have had 2 offseasons worth of work.

3 to 4 games to improve from his shit games that he had last year.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Most people aren't gonna stop being fans over a draft pick.

But if Reid and Dorsey are ***** and Haley part 2, and this franchise doesn't get back to winning ways...you might see a whole lot of apathy about the Chiefs.

If they're here for 4 years and we don't have a winning season....that would be 10 years with one winning season.

That's rough.

And that point the players fans like right now are gonna be all but gone.ver

The next two drafts are absolutely critical for this team.

Well said. Apathy is a great word. Even during past yrs of struggle and heartbreak I was there emotionally and mentally for them. They took that away. I have been near the I don't care line. SOC was the last stand. If this somehow turns into the past 4 yrs all over again I don't know how icould stay in it emotionally.

If ***** and cassel both headline 2013 I wouldn't even be mad. I would just be at the point of "well this team doesn't care, how can I?" The moves changed that, but I am not in the mood tohave to root for a retread qb and pretend it has a decent chance of working.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by patteeu

In other words, you were as die-hard as they come when the team was good, but your interest started to diminish when they weren't as good. I can't remember what that's called.

There is a difference between being uninterested in a team that doesn't try or care about winning a sb vs a team that just never seems to get it done and just is never good despite trying. The chiefs were hopeless for the past 7 yrs because they never cared to get a real qb. Knowing cassel had a job because of *****s ego, lot tougher to stay emotionally invested. For example, do u blame pirates fans from losing their die hard edge? Extreme example I know but that's my premise.

[The Franchise]

Teams starting QBs by round drafted.

AFC North (1)
Baltimore - Joe Flacco, first-round pick
Cincinnati - Andy Dalton*, second-round pick
Cleveland - Brandon Weeden, first-round pick
Pittsburgh - Ben Roethlithsberger, first-round pick

AFC South (1)
Houston - Matt Schaub*, third-round pick (trade with Atlanta)
Indianapolis - Andrew Luck, first-round pick
Jacksonville - Blaine Gabbert, first-round pick
Tennessee - Jake Locker, first-round pick

AFC West (0)
Denver - Peyton Manning, first-round pick (free agency)
Kansas City - Unknown
Oakland - Carson Palmer, first-round pick (trade)
San Diego - Philip Rivers, first-round pick

AFC East (1)
Buffalo - Unknown
Miami - Ryan Tannehill, first-round pick
New England - Tom Brady*, sixth-round pick
New York - Mark Sanchez, first-round pick

NFC North (0)
Chicago - Jay Cutler, first-round pick (trade)
Detroit - Matthew Stafford, first-round pick
Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers, first-round pick
Minnesota - Christian Ponder, first-round pick

NFC South (1)
Atlanta - Matt Ryan, first-round pick
Carolina - Cam Newton, first-round pick
New Orleans - Drew Brees*, second-round pick (free agency)
Tampa Bay - Josh Freeman, first-round pick

NFC West (2)
Arizona - Unknown
San Francisco - Colin Kaepernick*, second-round pick
Seattle - Russell Wilson*, third-round pick
St. Louis - Sam Bradford, first-round pick

NFC East (1)
Dallas- Tony Romo*, undrafted
New York - Eli Manning, first-round pick (trade)
Philadelphia - Michael Vick, first-round pick (free agency)
Washington - Robert Griffin III, first-round pick

See a ****ing trend?

[oldandslow]

Winning cures everything...

We go 8-8 next year, people will be excited...

we go to the playoffs the year after that and people will be ecstatic....

we actually win a playoff game and Reid will have a statue out in front of the stadium.

Whether we do that with Foles or Smith makes little difference.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

There is a difference between being uninterested in a team that doesn't try or care about winning a sb vs a team that just never seems to get it done and just is never good despite trying. The chiefs were hopeless for the past 7 yrs because they never cared to get a real qb. Knowing cassel had a job because of *****s ego, lot tougher to stay emotionally invested. For example, do u blame pirates fans from losing their die hard edge? Extreme example I know but that's my premise.

Blame?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by O.city

I believe fair weather would mean said person would come back when they get good again.

It could. It doesn't have to though.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You need to go back to that cesspool DC. You don't even know the lexicon for ****'s sake and you've been here an eternity.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Blame?

Felt like your post was implying a die hard losing interest in hard times is actually a fair-weather fan. I was saying that there are grey areas. For example can u blame a pirate fan for giving up emotionally? Does that make him fair-weather?