Where will Vince Young be selected in the draft?

**Rain Man** · 01-09-2006, 03:08 PM

Poll to follow, after this word from Mel Kiper.

Brock · 01-09-2006, 03:58 PM

A couple of weeks ago, I was thinking his screwy delivery would drop him into the second round. I really don't think that's going to work in the NFL.

But given his huge performance, I'm not sure now.

Chiefnj · 01-09-2006, 04:44 PM

Picks 1,2,3,4,6,9 and 10 could all use a QB. I say in the top 10. I think Leinert still has the edge because he has shown he is a passer first. Bush will be taken in the top 3. Young can use a little more work as a passer so I think he'll go 3-10.

Torch7 · 01-12-2006, 10:09 AM

Just out of curiosity... why do you think young needs more work as a passer?

I agree... but I also believe Leinhart needs work as a passer as well..

Brock · 01-12-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torch7

Just out of curiosity... why do you think young needs more work as a passer?

I agree... but I also believe Leinhart needs work as a passer as well..

His throwing motion is low. I think it will lead to lots and lots of passes being batted down and/or intercepted.

ct · 01-12-2006, 11:41 AM

Torch7 · 01-12-2006, 01:47 PM

I understand that his throwing motion calls for a low release, but is there anything else that calls his ability to be a NFL QB into question?

I really appreciate the national perspective on this kid.

eazyb81 · 01-12-2006, 01:56 PM

Titans will take him at #3 so he can sit for a year and be mentored by Air McNair.

Mecca · 01-12-2006, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torch7

I understand that his throwing motion calls for a low release, but is there anything else that calls his ability to be a NFL QB into question?

I really appreciate the national perspective on this kid.

His release point is to low, his footwork is bad. Everything about the way he passes will need to be changed for the NFL game. Even Micheal Vick has proper passing mechanics, this guy doesn't even have that. He also doesn't have Vicks arm strength.

All of that being said, some team will probably risk it high and pick him. I hope they do, the more iffy players that go high the better chance the Chiefs have of getting a better player.

Torch7 · 01-13-2006, 12:22 PM

I understand why those who are a bit leary of Vince say those things...
Those of us who have seen him play since high school are optimistic, because we have seen how clutch this kid is despite looking unorthodox.

Here is a post I posted on another board to a fan who said he hasn't seen him make any good throws, now keep in mind I know, that VINCE has to improve, in many areas, but so does everyone else coming into the league...But here is some of the potential we Vince Young fans see:

--Post taken from another board ---
In response to Vince making the tough throws..

Junior year:
http://www.jcdenton40.com/UTvKU04-TonyJeffrey-Catch1(DivX).avi

Clutch throw under pressure:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-BillyPittman-Catch2-R1(DivX).avi
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi

Big12 Championship Game
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi

Giving it to his receiver in a position to run:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-Catch1(DivX).avi

Putting it where only his receiver can make the play:
http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-DavidThomas-TD(DivX).avi

Off his back foot tear drop
http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvTTU05-BillyPittman-TD1-R1(DivX).avi

Tons of Vince Highlights on http://www.jcdenton40.com -- for those who need to see more.

01-14-2006, 01:41 AM

Vince will be taken higher than he should...he has suspect arm strength, and like Bill Simmons said, it looks like he's trying to get dog crap off of his hand when he releases the ball.

Torch7 · 01-17-2006, 08:44 AM

While I will agree that his motion is unorthodox... there aren't many scouts, that I have heard an analysis that said his arm strength was in question... He has a much stronger arm than Leinhart.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-17-2006, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Matrix

Vince will be taken higher than he should...he has suspect arm strength, and like Bill Simmons said, it looks like he's trying to get dog crap off of his hand when he releases the ball.

So what he has a weird release the guy is 6'5" so he can get away with that, and therefore their shouldn't be a worry about batted footballs by D-linemen.

Brock · 01-18-2006, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

So what he has a weird release the guy is 6'5" so he can get away with that, and therefore their shouldn't be a worry about batted footballs by D-linemen.

Elvis Grbac is 6'5" as well. Of course it should be a concern. He isn't going to get the kind of throwing lanes he got in college.

KevB · 01-18-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Elvis Grbac is 6'5" as well. Of course it should be a concern. He isn't going to get the kind of throwing lanes he got in college.

Yes, he will. He'll create throwing lanes with his feet....side-stepping, rolling out of the pocket,etc.

View Poll Results: Where will Vince Young be selected in the draft (besides Madison Square Garden)?
1st round, 1st pick	2	6.25%
1st round, 2nd pick	4	12.50%
1st round, 3rd pick	16	50.00%
1st round, 4th through 6th pick	6	18.75%
1st round, 7th through 10th pick	1	3.13%
1st round, 11th through 19th pick	0	0%
1st round, 20th pick or later	1	3.13%
2nd round	1	3.13%
3rd round through 5th round	0	0%
6th or 7th round	0	0%
No draft - Free agent contract	0	0%
No draft, and no free agent	1	3.13%
Is he any relation to Vince Lombardi?	0	0%
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	A couple of weeks ago, I was thinking his screwy delivery would drop him into the second round. I really don't think that's going to work in the NFL. But given his huge performance, I'm not sure now.
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01-09-2006, 04:44 PM	#3
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Picks 1,2,3,4,6,9 and 10 could all use a QB. I say in the top 10. I think Leinert still has the edge because he has shown he is a passer first. Bush will be taken in the top 3. Young can use a little more work as a passer so I think he'll go 3-10. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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01-12-2006, 10:09 AM	#4
Torch7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	Just out of curiosity... why do you think young needs more work as a passer? I agree... but I also believe Leinhart needs work as a passer as well..
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01-12-2006, 01:47 PM	#7
Torch7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	I understand that his throwing motion calls for a low release, but is there anything else that calls his ability to be a NFL QB into question? I really appreciate the national perspective on this kid.
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01-12-2006, 01:56 PM	#8
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $10004900	Titans will take him at #3 so he can sit for a year and be mentored by Air McNair.
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01-13-2006, 12:22 PM	#10
Torch7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	I understand why those who are a bit leary of Vince say those things... Those of us who have seen him play since high school are optimistic, because we have seen how clutch this kid is despite looking unorthodox. Here is a post I posted on another board to a fan who said he hasn't seen him make any good throws, now keep in mind I know, that VINCE has to improve, in many areas, but so does everyone else coming into the league...But here is some of the potential we Vince Young fans see: --Post taken from another board --- In response to Vince making the tough throws.. Junior year: http://www.jcdenton40.com/UTvKU04-TonyJeffrey-Catch1(DivX).avi Clutch throw under pressure: http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-BillyPittman-Catch2-R1(DivX).avi http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvOHST05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi Big12 Championship Game http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-TD(DivX).avi Giving it to his receiver in a position to run: http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-LimasSweed-Catch1(DivX).avi Putting it where only his receiver can make the play: http://www.jcdenton41.com/Big12CG05-DavidThomas-TD(DivX).avi Off his back foot tear drop http://www.jcdenton41.com/UTvTTU05-BillyPittman-TD1-R1(DivX).avi Tons of Vince Highlights on http://www.jcdenton40.com -- for those who need to see more.
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01-14-2006, 01:41 AM	#11
John Matrix Guest Casino cash: $	Vince will be taken higher than he should...he has suspect arm strength, and like Bill Simmons said, it looks like he's trying to get dog crap off of his hand when he releases the ball.
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01-17-2006, 08:44 AM	#12
Torch7 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	While I will agree that his motion is unorthodox... there aren't many scouts, that I have heard an analysis that said his arm strength was in question... He has a much stronger arm than Leinhart.
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