Chiefs Harrison of NFL.com ranks his top 10 QB's of '15 and Alex.... - Page 9

**Nzoner** · 05-19-2015, 10:26 AM

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Competition was fierce at the 10-spot, coming down to Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco and Matthew Stafford. If we were talking overall careers, Manning would be the choice. Flacco presents an interesting argument, because he tends to light it up in nationally televised games. At the same time, there's no question he's been inconsistent since winning Super Bowl XLVII. Stafford's inaccuracy in key spots has driven Lions fans crazy. Newton's calling card has never included on-the-mark throws, but his overall game can be a nightmare for defenses. Ryan, meanwhile, has been the most consistent, and was ultimately the toughest to leave off.

So why Smith?

Chiefnj2 · 05-22-2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

... because they know that with a decent supporting cast, he can. They give him the contract... then upgrade the OL and WR positions that were sorely lacking... and THEN we see if they are correct.

What is it that you are expecting Alex to do more of on 2015 that he hasn't done in the past?

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

He's had a decent support cast for 4 years in a ****ing row.

if you really believe this, then you are an ass hat.

**The Franchise** · 05-22-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

... because they know that with a decent supporting cast, he can. They give him the contract... then upgrade the OL and WR positions that were sorely lacking... and THEN we see if they are correct.

So when is that? This year? Next year? When is it finally his fault that this team can't get over the hurdle?

jd1020 · 05-22-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

if you really believe this, then you are an ass hat.

So you are here to tell me that the 49ers were a shit team and the Chiefs roster is full of garbage? You are ****ing dumb.

A ****ing rookie took the 49ers to a SB but they weren't good enough for Alex Smith. Alex inherited a roster with the most probowlers in the league but they aren't good enough.

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

What is it that you are expecting Alex to do more of on 2015 that he hasn't done in the past?

Most important is the rhythm. Smith is a rhythm QB, and requires better pass protection. You give this to him, and he relaxes. He relaxes, and then the consistent scoring drives increase. If he is constantly pulling himself off the ground, and his targets bumble more passes than is reasonable.. he goes back in his shell.

I think he will have a much better trust in his targets. Now the OL? TBD

temper11 · 05-22-2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

lolwut?

The guy is trash. All the fame and money and he still has to accost women in bathroom bars. Loser. I can't root for that, and wouldn't want him leading my team. I know for many, off field issues don't matter - it's how they play on the field, and that's fine. But for me, I don't even consider him for that reason alone.

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So when is that? This year? Next year? When is it finally his fault that this team can't get over the hurdle?

When the OL is better than bottom 7. Stated many times.

If the OL is decent to good, and somehow he underperforms week to week? Not even I will give him support.

Cmd'r&Chief · 05-22-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Why does it seem like every year is the defining year for Alex Smith? It's constantly, "This is the year Alex has no excuses." And then the season plays out the way an Alex Smith led team can expect to play. The offseason changes things up a bit, the team signs a FA you think can make an impact, the team drafts a couple of guys you think can make an impact, and now the following year becomes the, "This is it for Alex Smith season."

Why is that?

Why is this an argument? You act as though I'm defending Smith and that we're debating on whether he's a great QB. I think you misinterpreted the statement, so I will clarify.

He's been with us for 3 years. The first year he had no receivers but a solid line. The 2nd year he had no receivers, no line. This year he has both. So therefore, this season he will prove everyone wrong or everyone right.

He's not a great QB, he never will be. But in football there are Great QBs like Rogers, Manning, Brees and Brady. Then there are solid QBs that need the right pieces around them to be successful. Smith is the latter. He has his pieces now. There are no more excuses. So he proves the naysayers wrong, or he proves them right. There is no in-between. That's what I was saying. There is no love or hate for him on my end. If he can't do it this year, he needs to go. This is his last serenade.

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

So you are here to tell me that the 49ers were a shit team and the Chiefs roster is full of garbage? You are ****ing dumb.

A ****ing rookie took the 49ers to a SB but they weren't good enough for Alex Smith. Alex inherited a roster with the most probowlers in the league but they aren't good enough.

Kaep was no rookie. The only yr Alex had a good group was 2012. He was 6-2, and led the league in efficiency. 2011, there were a lot of issues. Brand new scheme, poor WRs, poor pass pro OL. To suggest they should have done better than they did would be ignorant at best. To suggest that the 2013 Chiefs should have been SB bound is pretty stupid also. Defensive injuries and collapse.. and then there is Dwayne Bowe with his step out of bounds.

jd1020 · 05-22-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmd'r&Chief

He's been with us for 3 years. The first year he had no receivers but a solid line. The 2nd year he had no receivers, no line. This year he has both. So therefore, this season he will prove everyone wrong or everyone right.

So if this line thats been so called "improved" because they traded for Grubbs and lost their top 5 C and replaced him with a draftee who is "flexible" falters, how long before you are making the excuse that he doesn't have a line? Or how long before the nearly entire rookie WR corp besides Maclin and a garbage Avant doesn't play up to expectations are you back making the excuse that he doesn't have WRs?

jd1020 · 05-22-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Kaep was no rookie.

Kaep was in his 2nd year and never took a starting snap before the 49ers looked at him and said, "better shot than with Alex."

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Kaep was in his 2nd year and never took a starting snap before the 49ers looked at him and said, "better shot than with Alex."

The HC lost his job over it too. Kaep failed miserably... and ironically... because he failed in a way that Smith would not have. Was awesome. Poetic justice FTW.

jd1020 · 05-22-2015, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

The HC lost his job over it too. Kaep failed miserably... and ironically... because he failed in a way that Smith would not have. Was awesome. Poetic justice FTW.

Smith doesn't make it to the SB. There is not a chance in hell that Smith comes back to beat the Packers, because that was done with Kaepernicks legs.

Sandy Vagina · 05-22-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Smith doesn't make it to the SB. There is not a chance in hell that Smith comes back to beat the Packers, because that was done with Kaepernicks legs.

RunKC · 05-22-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

He's had a decent support cast for 4 years in a ****ing row.

If you consider Alex's time here having a decent supporting cast then you are doing a great troll job.

How often has a team lost in the playoffs when the offense scores 44 points?
How many QB's had success with bottom 5 quality at the OL and WR positions?

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