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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Got it for 15-20 bucks a buddy of mine works a discount sport nutrition i usually get the hook up. I just take that stuff on monday or days i really need the extra boost. Im looking for something low caffine and low or no creatine id like to shake some water wieght. Anyone tried white flood or animal rage? Heard theyre low creatine. And sorry for the randomness in my original post i was coming out of the gym, txting and driving, and the adrenolyn rush.

I just usually buy whatever pre-workout is cheapest as well and isn't loaded with caffeine. I add my own bulk goodies to them as I want.

White Flood is very good and very cost effective. Can find 100 serving tubs for around $40. Creatine does not make you hold water though. I would have some Creatine Mono in the mix somewhere, it is cheap as dirt and works.

Rage has a ton of caffeine so I stay away from it. I don't need 200+ mgs of caffeine and I think it has close to 300mg per serving.