Worrisome things: Offensive Line

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I'm glad we didn't step up and play big money to he or Schwarz.

Big money to Schwartz? 4 years - $16mil. How on earth would they have been able to swing such a gigantic contract?!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Big money to Schwartz? 4 years - $16mil. How on earth would they have been able to swing such a gigantic contract?!

You know how many players on Denver's roster were paid $4M or more going into this year? 4.

These small contracts add up.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You know how many players on Denver's roster were paid $4M or more going into this year? 4.

These small contracts add up.

Exactly. You start throwing around 4 million here and 4 million a year here and the next thing you know signing guys like Houston, Poe, and Berry become difficult.

This isn't baseball.

Teams have to be creative where they spend money. Look at the Seahawks and 49ers, they are able to build impressive teams because they don't have pay big money to their QB's YET. This is why building an offensive live through the draft is smart. Teams need rookie contracts to be able to pay their star players.

[jd1020]

Schwartz would have been the straw that broke the camels back, yet Joe Mays...

[Hoover]

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Hoover

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

Mays' cap # is a whopping 400k less than Schwartz this year and has a whopping $2mil less in guaranteed money. The savings are just insane!!!! Especially considering you get a guy as good as Joe Mays. He's sure to finish the year and not cause 50 penalties a game.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Mays' cap # is a whopping 400k less than Schwartz this year and has a whopping $2mil less in guaranteed money. The savings are just insane!!!! Especially considering you get a guy as good as Joe Mays. He's sure to finish the year and not cause 50 penalties a game.

yeah, because he has a two year deal and Schwartz has a 4 year deal. You can't just look at the 2014 cap hit, you have to look at the entirety of the contract.

You sound like the dumb ass that goes into a car dealership and negotiates a deal based entirely on the monthly payment and not the total price of the car.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Hoover

He didn't sign a 4 year deal worth 16 million.

Mays signed 2 years for 6 million.

We can get out of the Mays deal without much pain, Schwartz not so much.

That's the way I see it. If you look at the Chiefs' free agency strategy, they seem to be looking for a lot of stopgaps. Fasano, Avery, DeVito, Daniel, Mays, Sean Smith... he seems to want free agents who can fill in for a year or two, but who can ultimately be replaced when the draft or bargain bin finds a replacement. That means he doesn't really care if they're great, just solid enough to not be a complete liability. Over time, I'd expect to see a lot less Joe Mays type contracts.

You're absolutely right. Joe Mays was brought in purely as a stopgap. It wouldn't surprise me if we canned him next year. If we signed Schwartz, it would be intended to be a long-term contract.