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Old 04-06-2005, 06:41 PM  
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NFL Network says Saints and Chiefs trying to deal for Charles Woodson.

Take it FWIW.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:07 PM   #76
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he also said a 3rd
A third next year is the equivalent of a 4th this year.

So 2 4th's and a 6 or 7th for Surtain?
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:21 PM   #77
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A third next year is the equivalent of a 4th this year.

So 2 4th's and a 6 or 7th for Surtain?
FWIW, Pat Kirwan reported on "Inside Access" that the Chiefs and 'Fins had agreed to a 4th this year and a 3rd NEXT year.


He said it would get done sometime next week.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:24 PM   #78
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FWIW, Pat Kirwan reported on "Inside Access" that the Chiefs and 'Fins had agreed to a 4th this year and a 3rd NEXT year.


He said it would get done sometime next week.
I know I saw it, if they agreed to it then why wait?

Seems like Kirwin was talking out of his ass.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:25 PM   #79
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He said it would get done sometime next week.
If they already agreed, then it's already a done deal, right? That's weird.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:28 PM   #80
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I know I saw it, if they agreed to it then why wait?

Seems like Kirwin was talking out of his ass.
That's what I thought.

I can't see a justification to wait on this.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:52 PM   #81
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A third next year is the equivalent of a 4th this year.
I've heard that rationale before and I don't get it. Does that mean a 4th this year is worth a first in 2008? I'd gladly have Carl trade the two remaining 5th round picks for first round picks in 2009.
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:59 PM   #82
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Yes they have dealt with each other.



Which in turn...



One of those picks was from Kansas City, the 59th pick. The other was awarded from the NFL.
McGlockton was the Raiders franchise FA.
The Chiefs signed him, and were required to give that pick to the Raiders, but they did not deal with the Raiders.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:37 PM   #83
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My worst nightmare is this. The Raiders trade Woodson to the Saints then with their new found cap room they swing a trade for Surtain.

I am just waiting for Al to give the Chiefs the shaft.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:40 PM   #84
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My worst nightmare is this. The Raiders trade Woodson to the Saints then with their new found cap room they swing a trade for Surtain.

I am just waiting for Al to give the Chiefs the shaft.
, this place would melt down and then the molten mass would implode. Some would probably commit suicide while others would go insane and try to kill Carl.
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Old 04-07-2005, 07:40 PM   #85
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Actually the Raiders and Chiefs have traded before. 1963, Chiefs traded Cotton Davidson to the Raiders for the first pick in the AFL Draft, which turned out to be Buck Buchanan.
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Actually the Raiders and Chiefs have traded before. 1963, Chiefs traded Cotton Davidson to the Raiders for the first pick in the AFL Draft, which turned out to be Buck Buchanan.
Wow, smooth move by Carl. No wonder Al doesn't want to trade with him anymore.

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Actually the Raiders and Chiefs have traded before. 1963, Chiefs traded Cotton Davidson to the Raiders for the first pick in the AFL Draft, which turned out to be Buck Buchanan.
I suppose I should be clear about my time frame.

Al Davis was pissed that Lamar Hunt negotiated the merger with the NFL.
As commisioner of the AFL, Al Davis wanted to continue the battle with the NFL.
He was adamantly opposed to the merger.
Lamar's dream had always been to be a part of the NFL.

Since the merger agreement, Davis has refused to deal with the Chiefs.

Prior to the merger agreement, the Raiders and Chiefs had dealings.

Since then, about 40 years ago, they haven't dealt.
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:03 PM   #88
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My worst nightmare is this. The Raiders trade Woodson to the Saints then with their new found cap room they swing a trade for Surtain.

I am just waiting for Al to give the Chiefs the shaft.

Man talk about giving us the shaft if they walked away with both Surtain and Darren Howard.


But there's no danger in waiting till draft day to make a deal with the Fish, or so I've been told.
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