Final College Football Polls

[Archie Bunker]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...all/appoll.htm

AP

1. LSU
2. Georgia
3. USC
4. Missouri
5. Ohio St.
6. West Virginia
7. Kansas
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia Tech
10. Boston College


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...l/usatpoll.htm

Coaches

1. LSU
2. USC
3. Georgia
4. Ohio St.
5. Missouri
6. West Virginia
7. Kansas
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia Tech
10. Texas

[chiefsfan1963]

MU needs to beat OU next year! They need to get that monkey off their backs.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by frazod

Is the SEC like a commune or something? I don't get it.

It's a cult.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

It's a cult.

You forgot to photoshop in the rebel flags.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by frazod

I've never seen somebody derive so much pleasure from a rival winning. If Oklahoma or Kansas had won the national championship, the last thing I'd be is happy.

Is the SEC like a commune or something? I don't get it.

The vast majority of SEC fans cheer on the conference against OOC opponents during bowl season. We all have great pride in our conference, believe it's the best, and want to prove it. We want to beat the crap out of our rivals as much as anyone else during the regular season, but once it's bowl season it's SEC vs Everyone else.

Thus, during last year's championship game for Florida and at last night's game for LSU - during the waning moments one of the chants heard on TV was "SEC! SEC! SEC!". It's all about conference pride.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

The vast majority of SEC fans cheer on the conference against OOC opponents during bowl season. We all have great pride in our conference, believe it's the best, and want to prove it. We want to beat the crap out of our rivals as much as anyone else during the regular season, but once it's bowl season it's SEC vs Everyone else.

Thus, during last year's championship game for Florida and at last night's game for LSU - during the waning moments one of the chants heard on TV was "SEC! SEC! SEC!". It's all about conference pride.

Whatever. I think this southern-fried solidarity of yours is nothing more than a lame excuse for you to continue thumping your chest despite your team getting its ass kicked by *snicker* Michigan.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by frazod

Whatever. I think this southern-fried solidarity of yours is nothing more than a lame excuse for you to continue thumping your chest despite your team getting its ass kicked by *snicker* Michigan.

Michigan played very well and beat us solidly. Just because the Big XII doesn't share in it, this isn't a new or self-created fad in the SEC. We'd rather the championships stay within our own backyards and when debating "what conference is best" we have the W's to back our claims up.

Maybe it's from usually looking from the bottom up to Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma For the SEC, it pretty much only applies to football. In basketball, most teams want KY to lose no matter what, maybe because we've always been on the bottom looking up at them in that respect.

[Frazod]

As a Chief fan, I would never root for Denver or Oakland.

As a Cardinals fan, I would never root for Chicago or Houston.

And as a Missouri fan, I would never root Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska.

Fairly simple concept here. Division/conference rivals are the first, immediate threats to my team's success. I want them to suck and suck hard. The end.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by frazod

As a Chief fan, I would never root for Denver or Oakland.

As a Cardinals fan, I would never root for Chicago or Houston.

And as a Missouri fan, I would never root Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska.

Fairly simple concept here. Division/conference rivals are the first, immediate threats to my team's success. I want them to suck and suck hard. The end.

In the NFL, MLB, NBA I agree completely.

In college football it's different. In the NFL, everyone plays by the same rules. Every division is formatted the same way, everyone shares in the same draft, the same playoff format, free agency, everything.

In college football there is disparity in talent level across conferences, different formats across conferences (different sizes, championship game/no championship game, etc.), and a lot of the postseason is deteremined upon perceived strength of schedule, strength of victory, strength of conference. If the AFC West is garbage, but the Chiefs kick butt it doesn't matter. If a team in college football ownz in college football in a garbage conference, it negatively reflects upon that team.

Whether you recognize it or not, there is a difference.

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I t probably doesn't matter five years from now, but it certainly doesn't hurt in recruiting. MU is a Top-5 team. The unfortunate part is that our class is already filling up and we're likely to get another big commitment this afternoon (that part isn't unfortunate).

Rumor has it the big commit is former Nebraska recruit OL Dan Hoch. #1 prospect in Iowa and 20th ranked guard according to rivals.com.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

In the NFL, MLB, NBA I agree completely.

In college football it's different. In the NFL, everyone plays by the same rules. Every division is formatted the same way, everyone shares in the same draft, the same playoff format, free agency, everything.

In college football there is disparity in talent level across conferences, different formats across conferences (different sizes, championship game/no championship game, etc.), and a lot of the postseason is deteremined upon perceived strength of schedule, strength of victory, strength of conference. If the AFC West is garbage, but the Chiefs kick butt it doesn't matter. If a team in college football ownz in college football in a garbage conference, it negatively reflects upon that team.

Whether you recognize it or not, there is a difference.

I understand the concept, but still, I don't care. The enemy is the enemy.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by frazod

As a Chief fan, I would never root for Denver or Oakland.

As a Cardinals fan, I would never root for Chicago or Houston.

And as a Missouri fan, I would never root Kansas, Oklahoma or Nebraska.

Fairly simple concept here. Division/conference rivals are the first, immediate threats to my team's success. I want them to suck and suck hard. The end.

I don't get it either. I don't care what other peoples' opinion is of our conference. We'll play whoever you put in front of us and you can all talk about it afterwards.

Rooting for your biggest rival is contrary to my nature. I don't want anything good to ever happen to Kansas. I don't want anything good to happen to Oklahoma unless they are playing Kansas.

Like I would root for the Donks in the Super Bowl out of AFC pride? Whatever.

I have one team. I want them to win, and everyone else to lose.

[irishjayhawk]

I don't understand the last polls, but I don't really care. We won the Orange Bowl!


Now, for semantics:

1) I don't see how you hype up the BCS bowls and then the winners don't get to accrue the top 5 slots.
2) If you throw point 1 out, I don't see how Missouri and KU aren't back to back, and probably with Missouri in front based on their bowl performance and their argument of their claim to a BCS bowl.
3) The final poll seems to indicate why CFB never has parity - this year being an exception. It's all about name and nothing more. For Kansas or Missouri to TRULY turn the corner, they have to do 2-3x what other schools (Nebraska, comes to mind) who are having down years need to do to get back up. I just don't see how Kansas wins the Orange Bowl and teams like USC, tOSU, and Oklahoma can jump a BCS bowl winner. That, to me, sends the message: We don't want parity. We want our NAMES!

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Rumor has it the big commit is former Nebraska recruit OL Dan Hoch. #1 prospect in Iowa and 20th ranked guard according to rivals.com.

That would rock. We need to upgrade the line on both sides. That's where the Gooners killed us.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by frazod

That would rock. We need to upgrade the line on both sides. That's where the Gooners killed us.

You could really see the difference in that game. In the KU game, it looked like our O-line was dominating, but against Oklahoma they could barely do anything. If we want to compete against top teams like that, we need to upgrade the line. Plus it would make our offense even more deadly.

[CoMoChief]

Wow this has been a ****ed up season.