Chiefs How much time are you going to give Cassel to "Develop"? - Page 5

**Buehler445** · 05-03-2009, 10:07 AM

Prior to last season, we discussed in depth last year what it would take to develop Brodie last year. There was all sorts of discussion about whether Chiefs fans were patient enough to develop a franchise QB. IIRC the general consensus was a year to a year and a half for a 3rd year guy with no starts.

What we have in Cassel is a young guy. Whether you like it or not. He's going into his 5th season, but he only has 15 starts. I think he most certainly qualifies as a young guy, and I hope he still has more improvement before he peaks.

So how long do we give him before we move on?

Pioli Zombie · 05-03-2009, 02:46 PM

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Holy shit, call Maury; it's a ****ing breakthrough!

Have we had a Cassel discussion?
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B_Ambuehl · 05-03-2009, 02:49 PM

Until we sign the far superior Chase McDaniels off the Redskins practice squad as our new starter.

or...

Until the 2010 draft when we draft Tebow as QBOTF.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2009, 02:49 PM

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That about sums it up.
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Bullshit!

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Have we had a Cassel discussion?
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We are now. "Proven". "Safe".

Well then hit the ****ing stage lights, and let's do this thing!

**morphius** · 05-03-2009, 02:51 PM

Took Green until his second year here, I think that is fair.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2009, 02:54 PM

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Took Green until his second year here, I think that is fair.

I think that's one year too long, and I think if Trent Green is the benchmark we're shooting for; we need a fan base enema.

Pioli Zombie · 05-03-2009, 02:54 PM

Cassel took over for Tom Brady and by the end of the season was running it about as efficiently as Brady would have. If you watched the games.

His "developmental" time was early last year.

Now if there are struggles early it will be due to an inferior offense around him and everyone getting on the same page of a new system

But it will have nothing to do with Cassel needing to be developed. He's there.
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RustShack · 05-03-2009, 02:56 PM

Trent Green learned a system/playbook 1000x harder than this one.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Cassel took over for Tom Brady and by the end of the season was running it about as efficiently as Brady would have. If you watched the games.

His "developmental" time was early last year.

Now if there are struggles early it will be due to an inferior offense around him and everyone getting on the same page of a new system

But it will have nothing to do with Cassel needing to be developed. He's there.
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You heard him folks! The First Messiah is READY NOW!

(now if those other dipshits can just up their game and serve the Lord faithfully...)

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Trent Green learned a system/playbook 1000x harder than this one.

I never said he wasn't an intelligent game manager.

**Buehler445** · 05-03-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Trent Green learned a system/playbook 1000x harder than this one.

How do you know? Herm isn't here anymore.

Besides, IMO, the reason he didn't look as good the first year is because the protection wasn't as good until we picked up Roaf and we all know he held onto the ball a long time.
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Pioli Zombie · 05-03-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

You heard him folks! The First Messiah is READY NOW!

(now if those other dipshits can just up their game and serve the Lord faithfully...)

Now now. We know the real Messiah, Mark of Nazareth, is walking on the Hudson River giving sight to the blind.
He will rebuild the World Trade Center in 3 days.

So let's get this straight. All along through the draft you've been crying the talent level on the team sucks. But now you are saying the cast around Cassel is just fine.

Make up your mind please.
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RustShack · 05-03-2009, 03:06 PM

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How do you know? Herm isn't here anymore.

Besides, IMO, the reason he didn't look as good the first year is because the protection wasn't as good until we picked up Roaf and we all know he held onto the ball a long time.
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Gailey is still here.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Now now. We know the real Messiah, Mark of Nazareth, is walking on the Hudson River giving sight to the blind.
He will rebuild the World Trade Center in 3 days.

So let's get this straight. All along through the draft you've been crying the talent level on the team sucks. But now you are saying the cast around Cassel is just fine.

Make up your mind please.
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Back to topic, Pioli-san; Cassel is Pro Bowl ready, but his potential failure can be blamed solely on his supporting cast now?
Okeeday.

**Buehler445** · 05-03-2009, 03:10 PM

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Gailey is still here.

I would bet a tremendous amount of money the offense changes significantly. What we ran last year was no where near what he ran for Pittsburgh.
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MoreLemonPledge · 05-03-2009, 03:16 PM

Gailey is here in name only, at best as a consultant. Haley is going to put his offense in.

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