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Old 05-12-2014, 09:10 PM   #1
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:13 PM   #2
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I like Murray, and thought more highly of him than a 5th round QB.

But generally 5th rounders are 5th rounders for a reason.

I would really love to see us, for once, be the team that finds that hidden gem, but I won't be holding my breath.
He blew out his knee late in November.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:14 PM   #3
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He blew out his knee late in November.
And threw a TD pass shortly after he blew out his knee.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:17 PM   #4
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He blew out his knee late in November.
I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:24 PM   #5
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I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.
How far would Russel Wilson have fell if he blew out his knee in November of his final year in college?
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:40 PM   #6
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How far would Russel Wilson have fell if he blew out his knee in November of his final year in college?
That's a good question and gives me pause for thought.

I didn't really see a lot of Wilson in college, so I have no foundation to speculate.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:11 AM   #7
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I'm aware of that.

Watched a lot of Murray, and have always liked him.
Felt he has the same kind of accuracy and anticipation in his game as Brees.

But if he was really thought of as a high draft pick before the knee, I really doubt that knee would have caused a drop into the fifth round.
You would be 100% wrong. He didn't shrink in one year, nor did his arm get weaker. If the young man is good enough to be considered a 1st round pick two years ago and drops to the 5th this year, and he hasn't picked up a heroin habit along the way, the ONLY explanation that makes any sense is his ACL injury.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:13 AM   #8
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You would be 100% wrong. He didn't shrink in one year, nor did his arm get weaker. If the young man is good enough to be considered a 1st round pick two years ago and drops to the 5th this year, and he hasn't picked up a heroin habit along the way, the ONLY explanation that makes any sense is his ACL injury.
He wasn't a 1st round pick two years ago. People speculated that he could have been a 1st round pick, like Tony Dungy, but if he really WAS a potential 1st round pick in scouts eyes, the ACL wouldn't have dropped him all the way to the 5th.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:27 AM   #9
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He wasn't a 1st round pick two years ago. People speculated that he could have been a 1st round pick, like Tony Dungy, but if he really WAS a potential 1st round pick in scouts eyes, the ACL wouldn't have dropped him all the way to the 5th.
I read more than one publication that projected him as a 1st round pick. Sorry, I didn't save any of the URLs, but it really doesn't matter.

Six foot QBs don't typically get a lot of love in the NFL draft, no matter how good they are on the field. Murray's accuracy and production were special in college. The reason he fell to the 5th is the ACL injury.
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Old 05-13-2014, 08:46 AM   #10
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I read more than one publication that projected him as a 1st round pick. Sorry, I didn't save any of the URLs, but it really doesn't matter.

Six foot QBs don't typically get a lot of love in the NFL draft, no matter how good they are on the field. Murray's accuracy and production were special in college. The reason he fell to the 5th is the ACL injury.
I think the reason he fell was because of the ACL injury, plus a prior broken leg, plus concerns about his height, plus concerns about his arm strength, plus concerns about how he performed in some of the big games he played.

I like Murray a lot, and I think we may have gotten the best value for a QB in the draft. But we didn't get 1st round value in the 5th. He will have a lot of work to do and the odds will be stacked heavily against him, like any mid/late round QB.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:04 AM   #11
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That's such a painful legacy. I wonder if he even admits that he played in the NFL? If I were him, I'd hole up in my mini-mansion and wait for my wife to get home from her professional dressage competitions or whatever fanciful thing Kelli Croyle probably does for a living.
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