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Old 04-17-2006, 06:09 PM  
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ROYALS @ CHI SOX (The only team KC has defeated) - 4/17

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Old 04-17-2006, 07:24 PM   #91
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Call me old school but star ball players are hungry and want to be out there competing. Give me some kid with some fight and grit ..not someone who is just out there. We do need help. I just don't think Grienke is it.

Look at this Cantreres kid. This guy is going after batters. Throwing like he wants to win. All the talent in the world isn't any good if you don't have the attitude.
2 years ago Contreras was in NY and people were questioning his heart, wondering if he missed his family in Cuba too much.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:25 PM   #92
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Call me old school but star ball players are hungry and want to be out there competing. Give me some kid with some fight and grit ..not someone who is just out there. We do need help. I just don't think Grienke is it.

Look at this Cantreres kid. This guy is going after batters. Throwing like he wants to win. All the talent in the world isn't any good if you don't have the attitude.
I agree with needing the attitude, that was Zack's problem, he wasn't; fully in the game. I really hope this psychologist or whatever has worked on his issues, the guy showed little emotion, hopefully he can come back, if not, just add to the PILE of bust pitchers for this organization.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #93
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2 years ago Contreras was in NY and people were questioning his heart, wondering if he missed his family in Cuba too much.

But he never quit did he? Macdougal was questioned too ....too much pressure on him after going to the All Star game really jacked with his head. Took him a year to get his stuff back. But he never quit.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #94
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2 years ago Contreras was in NY and people were questioning his heart, wondering if he missed his family in Cuba too much.
Yeah I remember that as well, it's amazing what a good pitching coach can do too....look what the Sox coach has done for him, Garland and Loiaza when he was in Chitown.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:28 PM   #97
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But he never quit did he? Macdougal was questioned too ....too much pressure on him after going to the All Star game really jacked with his head. Took him a year to get his stuff back. But he never quit.
Well maybe Zack isn't quitting.

There are some pitchers in the HOF who took a while to find themselves.

Zack is what 22? I'm with Sure-Oz give the dude a break.

It's not like he's keeping our other star young pitchers from a rotation spot. Hell, what wouldn't be better than watching Joe Mays?
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wow look what happens when you get up there and make solid contact. 3 straight hits....Mays SUCKS!
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Well maybe Zack isn't quitting.

There are some pitchers in the HOF who took a while to find themselves.

Zack is what 22? I'm with Sure-Oz give the dude a break.

It's not like he's keeping our other star young pitchers from a rotation spot. Hell, what wouldn't be better than watching Joe Mays?
Way too young and way too talented to just throw away and not give a chance...this guy was a star that went on raw talent in the minors, if he starts listening to coaches and gets his head back in the game, the potential is there. This isn't some young scrub we are relying on.
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Jesus Christ I guess Bell just gave up on this game after the 1st inning to save our pitchers?
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Jesus Christ I guess Bell just gave up on this game after the 1st inning to save our pitchers?
Keep Mays in there, our bullpen has been out there too much as well, our starts barely avg 5 ip!
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Keep Mays in there, our bullpen has been out there too much as well, our starts barely avg 5 ip!

They need the work obviously. They haven't been that good when they ahve been out there except Dessens and Burgos.
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