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**Buck** · 04-01-2012, 09:20 PM

Added sugar in particular. Most fruit is okay.

Please watch this.

saphojunkie · 05-15-2014, 05:03 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/op...food.html?_r=2

An Inconvenient Truth About Our Food

“Fed Up” is probably the most important movie to be made since “An Inconvenient Truth,” to which it’s related in a couple of ways.

One of its producers is Laurie David, who also produced “An Inconvenient Truth.” Climate change, diet and agriculture are inexorably intertwined; we can’t tackle climate change without changing industrial agriculture, and we can’t change industrial agriculture without tackling diet.

Like “An Inconvenient Truth,” too, “Fed Up” can be seen as propaganda. (As can “Farmland,” the beautifully shot movie that looks and feels like a Chevy commercial and seems to take as its underlying premise that most Americans mistrust, even hate, farmers. It’s more than a little defensive.)

“Fed Up” says: “Here is a problem, a problem that vested interests have no interest in solving, and a problem that must be dealt with if we’re interested in our survival. It’s something worth fighting about.”

The problem at hand, of course, is the standard American diet, especially in its current iteration, which took shape in the early 1980s after the commencement of the official “eat food lower in fat” recommendations. Those recommendations led to a 25 percent increase in the per-capita supply (and indeed consumption) of calories.

Many of those calories were from sugar, on which “Fed Up” focuses (oversimplifying matters a bit, as far as I can tell, but we can live with that), and the high consumption of which contributes or leads to obesity, metabolic syndrome, diabetes and worse. The vested interests profiting from this situation are Big Food and its allies, who will, it seems, go to any lengths to maintain the status quo — even at the cost of our collective public and financial health. (It’s expensive to treat these chronic diseases, and we’re all footing that bill.)

At some point I have to get to the disclaimers, so here goes: Laurie David is a friend of mine. I’m also acquainted with Katie Couric, the film’s narrator, and half or more of the experts interviewed in the course of the movie. Even worse, I’m one of the interviewees. (A minor one; and at least I’m not an investor.)

I know these people in part because we agree on many if not most of the causes of the current food and health crisis, as well as on the directions we should take. There is little new in “Fed Up” for regular readers of this column, or to those who’ve read a selection of work by Marion Nestle, Michael Pollan, Gary Taubes, Rob Lustig, Michele Simon, Mark Hyman, David Ludwig, David Kessler or any other member of what we might call the professional sane eating brigade.

What matters, what’s exciting, is that “Fed Up” might reach some of the majority of Americans who’ve never heard of any of us but who adore Katie Couric, the former “Today” show co-host and one of the most recognizable women in the country.

The film has three components: a narration of bare facts and not-so-innocent questions by Couric, such as, “Is there a link between our ever expanding waistlines … and dietary guidelines?” and, “What if every can of soda came with a warning label from the surgeon general?” (I said it was propaganda; it’s really a call to action.) There is a series of interviews with talking heads, which bring out the heavy-hitting facts about the dangers of the overconsumption of sugar and other hyperprocessed food. These, in turn, are interwoven with the stories of a few obese teenagers and their struggles to lose weight.

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I was at first put off by these portraits, but was ultimately won over. The teens were given flip-cams and asked to keep video diaries, and these nonscripted video selfies, some apparently shot in private in their bedrooms, were sometimes almost unbearably touching. (For comic relief there is fantastic vintage footage, including a priceless clip of Homer Simpson shooting up a donut.)

The experts carry the ball. The journalist Gary Taubes calls the “energy balance” theory — the notion that all calories are the same, and that as long as you exercise enough, you’ll avoid gaining or even lose weight no matter what you eat — “nonsense.” One Coke, we learn, will take more than an hour to burn off. The pediatrician Rob Lustig, a leading anti-sugar campaigner, notes that “we have obese 6-month-olds. You wanna tell me that they’re supposed to diet and exercise?” David Ludwig, another M.D., notes that there is no difference between many processed foods and sugar itself, saying you can eat a bowl of cornflakes with no added sugar or a bowl of sugar with no added cornflakes and “below the neck they’re the same thing.” Lustig reminds us that anyone can develop metabolic syndrome: “You can be sick without being fat; this is not just a problem of the obese.”

And so on. Senator Tom Harkin says, “I don’t know how they (the food industry) live with themselves,” comparing them to the tobacco industry. Bill Clinton says, effectively, “We blew it,” when it came to this struggle.

The movie has some splendid moments: A mother cries at the difficulty of the choice she must make between giving her child what she wants and giving her what’s best. Her struggle is common, and she’s fighting against an almost overwhelming tide of marketing and, yes, even addiction. A school lunch worker, speaking of the fact that few kids choose the healthy option at lunch, says, “You can’t choose for them.” But they are children; we must choose for them. Not only are their parents not present, but their parents often don’t know what’s best.

That “Fed Up” is imperfect — how could a movie that was more than three years in the making, with constant tumult all around it, be otherwise? — is irrelevant. That it suggests that the response of the Obama administration to this crisis — and particularly Mrs. Obama — has been inadequate is also far from paramount. Yes, it’s fair to say, as Michael Pollan says in the movie, that “the government is subsidizing the obesity epidemic.” It’s also true that the Obama administration is the first one to try to do anything positive about this, and that it’s being fought at every turn.

Here’s what really matters: “Fed Up” is new in its bright, peppy, presumably crowd-pleasing presentation and in its target audience, many of whom, we assume, are not New York Times readers. The movie addresses what the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner David Kessler calls “one of the great public health epidemics of our time.” The greater public needs to know that.

As of this writing, the movie is in 19 markets, and doing well. If it were in hundreds of theaters, it would probably change more lives than any movie released this year, because if people see the film, they will get the message. It’s not a subtle one.

**Buck** · 05-15-2014, 06:34 PM

Doubt it has any significant impact. We're past the point of no return.

Passepartout · 05-15-2014, 06:49 PM

I try to eat yogurt as well as salads twice a week. As eating your greens are suppose to be great for your health. But can't get off of either sugar or chocolate!

BigChiefFan · 05-15-2014, 06:56 PM

Better than aspartame.

htismaqe · 05-15-2014, 07:11 PM

Just what we need, another political commentary on food.

RunKC · 11-05-2015, 09:46 AM

How do you feel about lactose from milk/yogurt? It's a pretty debated discussion these days.

I have friends who think it's terrible for you and some that don't mind in moderation.

Also, what snacks (non aspartame or sucralose) do you eat?

**Buck** · 11-05-2015, 11:41 PM

Well since processed meat gives you cancer now take this for what you will.

Pepperoni is a great snack. Almonds and cheese are great too.

Silock · 11-06-2015, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

How do you feel about lactose from milk/yogurt? It's a pretty debated discussion these days.

Debated in what way?

**007** · 11-06-2015, 05:53 AM

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**DaKCMan AP** · 11-06-2015, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Also, what snacks (non aspartame or sucralose) do you eat?

Apple & peanut butter
unsalted pretzels
Raw nuts (almonds, cashews, hazelnuts, etc.)
seasonal fruit (cherries, strawberries, raspberries/blackberries, watermelon)
carrots & celery
hard boiled egg

RunKC · 11-06-2015, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock

Debated in what way?

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

These are most of the things I've seen debated so far. The "unsweetened almond milk movement" appears to be in full force.

I think other things like Jamie Oliver's Ted talk about sugar in our milk and Woody Harrelson vehemently hating dairy for sugar reasons (as well as congestion/acne).

It's an interesting movement, and yes it's weird as **** to think we drink milk from a cow, but to hell with giving up dairy completely.

**penguinz** · 11-06-2015, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

These are most of the things I've seen debated so far. The "unsweetened almond milk movement" appears to be in full force.

I think other things like Jamie Oliver's Ted talk about sugar in our milk and Woody Harrelson vehemently hating dairy for sugar reasons (as well as congestion/acne).

It's an interesting movement, and yes it's weird as **** to think we drink milk from a cow, but to hell with giving up dairy completely.

That article is funny as hell.

Mennonite · 11-06-2015, 08:15 AM

It's amazing to me just how many foods have added sugar. It seems like it's added to almost everything these days.

RunKC · 11-06-2015, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mennonite

It's amazing to me just how many foods have added sugar. It seems like it's added to almost everything these days.

Yeah but not all sugar is bad for you. Fruits are awesome. And I think dairy in moderation is fine too.

Just Make sure that most of the food you eat is food that is in its most natural state.

Spott · 11-06-2015, 08:24 AM

I gave up processed sugar on January 3rd and lost 20 pounds the first 2 months, which was about 12% of my body weight. I lost another 8 in March and my weight has stayed the same since. The hardest part was not putting sugar in my coffee and giving up sweet tea. Sweet tea and soda taste awful to me now.

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saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4766250	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/op...food.html?_r=2 An Inconvenient Truth About Our Food “Fed Up” is probably the most important movie to be made since “An Inconvenient Truth,” to which it’s related in a couple of ways. One of its producers is Laurie David, who also produced “An Inconvenient Truth.” Climate change, diet and agriculture are inexorably intertwined; we can’t tackle climate change without changing industrial agriculture, and we can’t change industrial agriculture without tackling diet. Like “An Inconvenient Truth,” too, “Fed Up” can be seen as propaganda. (As can “Farmland,” the beautifully shot movie that looks and feels like a Chevy commercial and seems to take as its underlying premise that most Americans mistrust, even hate, farmers. It’s more than a little defensive.) “Fed Up” says: “Here is a problem, a problem that vested interests have no interest in solving, and a problem that must be dealt with if we’re interested in our survival. It’s something worth fighting about.” The problem at hand, of course, is the standard American diet, especially in its current iteration, which took shape in the early 1980s after the commencement of the official “eat food lower in fat” recommendations. Those recommendations led to a 25 percent increase in the per-capita supply (and indeed consumption) of calories. Many of those calories were from sugar, on which “Fed Up” focuses (oversimplifying matters a bit, as far as I can tell, but we can live with that), and the high consumption of which contributes or leads to obesity, metabolic syndrome, diabetes and worse. The vested interests profiting from this situation are Big Food and its allies, who will, it seems, go to any lengths to maintain the status quo — even at the cost of our collective public and financial health. (It’s expensive to treat these chronic diseases, and we’re all footing that bill.) At some point I have to get to the disclaimers, so here goes: Laurie David is a friend of mine. I’m also acquainted with Katie Couric, the film’s narrator, and half or more of the experts interviewed in the course of the movie. Even worse, I’m one of the interviewees. (A minor one; and at least I’m not an investor.) I know these people in part because we agree on many if not most of the causes of the current food and health crisis, as well as on the directions we should take. There is little new in “Fed Up” for regular readers of this column, or to those who’ve read a selection of work by Marion Nestle, Michael Pollan, Gary Taubes, Rob Lustig, Michele Simon, Mark Hyman, David Ludwig, David Kessler or any other member of what we might call the professional sane eating brigade. What matters, what’s exciting, is that “Fed Up” might reach some of the majority of Americans who’ve never heard of any of us but who adore Katie Couric, the former “Today” show co-host and one of the most recognizable women in the country. The film has three components: a narration of bare facts and not-so-innocent questions by Couric, such as, “Is there a link between our ever expanding waistlines … and dietary guidelines?” and, “What if every can of soda came with a warning label from the surgeon general?” (I said it was propaganda; it’s really a call to action.) There is a series of interviews with talking heads, which bring out the heavy-hitting facts about the dangers of the overconsumption of sugar and other hyperprocessed food. These, in turn, are interwoven with the stories of a few obese teenagers and their struggles to lose weight. Continue reading the main storyContinue reading the main story Advertisement I was at first put off by these portraits, but was ultimately won over. The teens were given flip-cams and asked to keep video diaries, and these nonscripted video selfies, some apparently shot in private in their bedrooms, were sometimes almost unbearably touching. (For comic relief there is fantastic vintage footage, including a priceless clip of Homer Simpson shooting up a donut.) The experts carry the ball. The journalist Gary Taubes calls the “energy balance” theory — the notion that all calories are the same, and that as long as you exercise enough, you’ll avoid gaining or even lose weight no matter what you eat — “nonsense.” One Coke, we learn, will take more than an hour to burn off. The pediatrician Rob Lustig, a leading anti-sugar campaigner, notes that “we have obese 6-month-olds. You wanna tell me that they’re supposed to diet and exercise?” David Ludwig, another M.D., notes that there is no difference between many processed foods and sugar itself, saying you can eat a bowl of cornflakes with no added sugar or a bowl of sugar with no added cornflakes and “below the neck they’re the same thing.” Lustig reminds us that anyone can develop metabolic syndrome: “You can be sick without being fat; this is not just a problem of the obese.” And so on. Senator Tom Harkin says, “I don’t know how they (the food industry) live with themselves,” comparing them to the tobacco industry. Bill Clinton says, effectively, “We blew it,” when it came to this struggle. The movie has some splendid moments: A mother cries at the difficulty of the choice she must make between giving her child what she wants and giving her what’s best. Her struggle is common, and she’s fighting against an almost overwhelming tide of marketing and, yes, even addiction. A school lunch worker, speaking of the fact that few kids choose the healthy option at lunch, says, “You can’t choose for them.” But they are children; we must choose for them. Not only are their parents not present, but their parents often don’t know what’s best. That “Fed Up” is imperfect — how could a movie that was more than three years in the making, with constant tumult all around it, be otherwise? — is irrelevant. That it suggests that the response of the Obama administration to this crisis — and particularly Mrs. Obama — has been inadequate is also far from paramount. Yes, it’s fair to say, as Michael Pollan says in the movie, that “the government is subsidizing the obesity epidemic.” It’s also true that the Obama administration is the first one to try to do anything positive about this, and that it’s being fought at every turn. Here’s what really matters: “Fed Up” is new in its bright, peppy, presumably crowd-pleasing presentation and in its target audience, many of whom, we assume, are not New York Times readers. The movie addresses what the former Food and Drug Administration commissioner David Kessler calls “one of the great public health epidemics of our time.” The greater public needs to know that. As of this writing, the movie is in 19 markets, and doing well. If it were in hundreds of theaters, it would probably change more lives than any movie released this year, because if people see the film, they will get the message. It’s not a subtle one.
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