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Old 01-04-2013, 03:10 PM   #1
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Reid definitely has some weaknesses

doesn't run the ball enough
time clock management is suspect
not as good at the player personnel part as he is at coaching
doesn't seem to be able to take the 'next step' He isn't like marty shottenheimer but still
Actually, it's been shown that he runs the ball quite enough. Common misconception.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:13 PM   #2
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Actually, it's been shown that he runs the ball quite enough. Common misconception.
He runs the ball very effectively ie YPC etc is not the same as enough

There is a certain effect of running the ball regardless of yards gain that leads to a more productive offense ... less QB hits,more ToP etc.

throwing the ball even though you need to burn clock etc
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:17 PM   #3
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He runs the ball very effectively ie YPC etc is not the same as enough

There is a certain effect of running the ball regardless of yards gain that leads to a more productive offense ... less QB hits,more ToP etc.

throwing the ball even though you need to burn clock etc
Nobody said anything about YPC. Running the ball "enough" is all about attempts.

His splits are about 45% run over the length of his career.

That's PLENTY.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:23 PM   #4
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Nobody said anything about YPC. Running the ball "enough" is all about attempts.

His splits are about 45% run over the length of his career.

That's PLENTY.
not imo

at it's also about knowing WHEN to run it.


i've already said i like the hire but you are going to have Chiefs fans screaming 'just run the ball!!!' several times throughout Reid's tenure.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:26 PM   #5
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Here's what to expect:

Good QB play, an offense scoring a lot of points and a defense that gets pressure on the QB.

WTF else could we want? This is going to be AWESOME
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:26 PM   #6
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not imo

at it's also about knowing WHEN to run it.


i've already said i like the hire but you are going to have Chiefs fans screaming 'just run the ball!!!' several times throughout Reid's tenure.
In your opinion? It's a statistical fact.


He has ran the ball 45% of snaps in his career. And to that effect, he hasnt' been the primary playcaller.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:36 PM   #7
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not imo

at it's also about knowing WHEN to run it.


i've already said i like the hire but you are going to have Chiefs fans screaming 'just run the ball!!!' several times throughout Reid's tenure.
I'm sure they will - they idolize Marty Schottenheimer and pine for caveman football.

Andy Reid uses his primary back just as much as every other team in the league. What Andy Reid doesn't do is hand the ball off to Dexter McCluster on 3rd and 8 or run a toss sweep to Payton Hillis.

He values playmakers. He won't run the ball just to run the ball, that's just stupid.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:41 PM   #8
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I'm sure they will - they idolize Marty Schottenheimer and pine for caveman football.

Andy Reid uses his primary back just as much as every other team in the league. What Andy Reid doesn't do is hand the ball off to Dexter McCluster on 3rd and 8 or run a toss sweep to Payton Hillis.

He values playmakers. He won't run the ball just to run the ball, that's just stupid.
Sorry, believe you meant hand the ball to Shaun Draughn on 3rd and 8, while Jamaal watches helplessly on the sideline. Just helpin ya out there.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:01 PM   #9
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He runs the ball very effectively ie YPC etc is not the same as enough

There is a certain effect of running the ball regardless of yards gain that leads to a more productive offense ... less QB hits,more ToP etc.

throwing the ball even though you need to burn clock etc
I used to yell this at the tv during the Marty years; the best way to burn up the clock is by picking up first downs. He can throw all he wants.
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Mike Martz, Andy Reid...both failed philosophies. There are times when you need to be able to run the ball to keep your defense fresh and ruin the timing of the opposition. Ask the Ravens how that go away from your offensive strength thing is going.
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Yep, he can go ahead and submit that CIA application now, Reid will have O use for a player like him.
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Mike Martz, Andy Reid...both failed philosophies. There are times when you need to be able to run the ball to keep your defense fresh and ruin the timing of the opposition. Ask the Ravens how that go away from your offensive strength thing is going.
The Ravens were not exactly going any where playing to their offensive strength. They went away from it for a reason.
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Mike Martz, Andy Reid...both failed philosophies. There are times when you need to be able to run the ball to keep your defense fresh and ruin the timing of the opposition. Ask the Ravens how that go away from your offensive strength thing is going.
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