Rebel flag is it racist?

[Duck Dog]

Am just curious as to everyone's thoughts

[Duck Dog]

South Carolina Was the first state to Secede from the Union. <P>

[Gracie Dean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR> . I wouldn't walk in Harlem with 100.00 bills sticking out of my pocket either. Does that mean that the money is racist? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No. Not the money.

[redshirt32]

Pam:

"South Carolina Was the first state to Secede from the Union. "

And Texas is the only state that still maintains the legal right to secede from the United States.

Your point is?

mmaddog
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[redbrian]

Of course the rebel flag is a racist symbol. We all know it. It only exists today because a bunch of people in the south didn't want to give up their precious slaves. The Nazi flag exists because a group of people didn't want to share this planet with Jews.

Besides, the only individuals I see that are willing to proudly display that flag appear to be inbred hicks. Why would ANYONE want to be associated with such a group of idiots?

[BIG_DADDY]

The conferate flag is a symbol. Like it or not, it has become recogonized as a symbol for slavery and racism. It's just like the word discrimination has been insipidly linked with the meaning 'discriminating on the basis of racial stereotypes'. You can argue all you want, but once a symbol and it's meaning have been linked by popular society, unlinking them is near impossible.

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[Duck Dog]

Mark,
I was answering post #23

[DoktorSmith]

Clint, I have a Confederate Battle Flag hanging in my house, along with a pre WWII American flag....

I do not consider myself a hick or an idiot...I hang the Confederate flag because a. I think it is a neat flag design and b. I am an amatuer civil war historian...in that context, It's no different than my hanging a jersey of the Chargers in my house...I might not like what it stands for, but it's a cool jersey and I'm a football fan...

Not all of us that display symbols, good or bad, are hicks and idiots...

And as I said before, the Confederate flag is not a racist symbol, it's simply a flag design used by the Army of the CSA...it's nothing more than a battle flag....if you showed people that actual flag of the CSA, they wouldn't even know what it was.

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"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst

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[redbrian]

If you are not a hick or an idiot, then you are definitely the exception to the rule.

The issue of slavery was the driving force of the Civil War. As a civil war buff, you should know better than most of us what that flag stands for.

[Raiderhater]

[i]Why would ANYONE want to be associated with such a group of idiots?[/i] - I agree, maybe you should rethink your vehement defense of Clinton.

Arkansas flag does commemorate the confederacy in their flag as well. Matter of fact, Clinton signed it into law when was gov.

"The blue star above the word "ARKANSAS" is to commemorate the Confederate States of America." - [url="http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/newsdcode/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&2.0"]http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/newsdcode/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-h.htm&2.0[/url] <BR>

[redbrian]

I'm not a Clinton supporter...I just refused to get my panties in a bunch because he got his weiner "Lewinskied" then lied about it.

Of course Arkansas recognizes the Confederate flag. Have you ever been there? Jeez, between Arkansas and Mississippi, I can't decide which is the bunghole of the USA.

[Raiderhater]

LOL...Touchee, Clint.

Actually was there a few times, canoed down the rivers around Bennett Springs. Good fly fishing down there too.

[DoktorSmith]

How the flag came into existence:

"After several incidents of battlefield confusion at Manassas, the staffs of Generals Joseph Johnston and Pierre Beauregard submitted designs for a distinctive banner to fly over the Confederate Army in Northern Virginia to set it distinctly apart from the U.S. Stars and Stripes. The design submitted by General Beauregard's staff was selected as the official banner, due mainly to its simpler design. Conceived on the field of battle for the noblest of reasons, to save the lives of their comrades, the Confederate Battle Flag flew proudly over every battlefield for the next four years, until being furled finally at Appomatox in April 1865."

I don't see anything that says that it was designed to show the south's hate of Blacks or any other minority, etc.

Rethink...racism comes from our hearts and not from a flag.

Clint, but that is not what the flag stands for...at least not then...now of course you are right...all too often it is used by people as a racist symbol and those people are the idoits and hicks....

Slavery was/is wrong...no denying that...I love talking about the Civil War...but alas, I have to work... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/frown.gif[/img]
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joe

"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst

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Clint wears panties?

Well, if anyone can do so, and do it well, I'm sure it's Clint.

[Gracie Dean]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>Clint wears panties?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not only does he wear them, he manages to keep them from bunching by displaying an enlightened world view.
Is this the latest in telekinesis?

What color? [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]