If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's what Lil Chiefy calls "premium success" because Lil Chiefy is an easy little tramp.
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Who the **** is Lil Chiefy? Do you speak English at all?
Also, I agree, I dont want to 'Dilfer-drag" around either...(I guess you speak some English, cuz I understood that rant-lol)

[Pasta Little Brioni]

HA Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[Mav]

Originally Posted by SNR

And I think that's disingenuous and full of shit. You can be sour on Geno Smith without thinking it's an automatic he'll be a huge failure.

I have no ****ing clue how somebody can watch ANY of his college games (including the bad ones) and conclude that the guy has only a 15% chance of being a franchise QB in the NFL.

Honestly, he has about a 0% chance of success, the longer he plays for the Jets. The media, the team is awful around him right now on offense, their coach is a loony toon. I know you like the guy, and I am not knocking it. But there is situations that just cant be overcome. There are Guys like Eli Manning, who can go in, take the criticisms and survive. If the guy was getting snarky on twitter with just a few "experts" tugging on his cape pre draft, what is he going to do in that Environment? I don't like his odds. I really don't.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

And I think that's disingenuous and full of shit. You can be sour on Geno Smith without thinking it's an automatic he'll be a huge failure.

I have no ****ing clue how somebody can watch ANY of his college games (including the bad ones) and conclude that the guy has only a 15% chance of being a franchise QB in the NFL.

It all depends. I think circumstance comes into play.

Look at their roster. They might have the weakest surrounding weapons in the AFC.

They lost Shonn Greene. They lost Dustin Keller. Santonio Holmes is coming off an injury and they aren't sure whether he'll be ready week 1.

Who the **** is there to throw to? Stephen Hill?

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

The funniest thing about that pic is the hundreds of people applauding around the one guy who looks pissed with his arms folded in the middle.

Every mental institution has one sane guy wondering what he is doing in there. I'm naming this guy McMurphy after Jack Nicholas's character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest".

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

To some degree, I understand the anger, cuz the burn of the past is still stinging. What I don't understand is rooting for us to fail miserably, and not having "premium" success just because you don't like Alex Smith. If his QB play gets the team "premium" success, then whats the ****ing problem??? Isnt that what we are all rooting for?? "Premium" success??? His "fandom" blows my mind. He keeps threatening to jump ship. Jump already FFS!

I agree. Great post
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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No. The worst thing that could happen is he starts winning playoff games and you guys have to admit that trading for him was a good move at the time.

That would be the absolute best thing that could happen in my opinion
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[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Well that soitenly didn't help them any

I've posted the Greg Cosell article here now about 4 times, and posted the key excerpts giving crystal clear examples of at least 3 plays where Alex missed or more likely, refused to throw to a wind open receiver from a clean pocket.

The people who refuse to believe Alex had any role in the loss refuse to even acknowledge these facts revealed by Greg Cosell's tape study of the game. the Alexsexuals just reply "every QB has a few mistakes a game". Refusing to throw the ball to a wide open receiver in crunch time from a clean pocket with no pressure is not a "mistake". It is a fundamental weakness in a QB. The type of fundamental flaw that prevents such QB from ever rising to greater heights of performance.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I've posted the Greg Cosell article here now about 4 times, and posted the key excerpts giving crystal clear examples of at least 3 plays where Alex missed or more likely, refused to throw to a wind open receiver from a clean pocket.

The people who refuse to believe Alex had any role in the loss refuse to even acknowledge these facts revealed by Greg Cosell's tape study of the game. the Alexsexuals just reply "every QB has a few mistakes a game". Refusing to throw the ball to a wide open receiver in crunch time from a clean pocket with no pressure is not a "mistake". It is a fundamental weakness in a QB. The type of fundamental flaw that prevents such QB from ever rising to greater heights of performance.

I have never absolved Alex Smith from any of the blame in the NFCCG. Not one time. I know he made mistakes, I know he missed Kyle Williams by a mile, I know that he didn't see Delanie Walker wide open. I know that he didn't take any chances with Crabtree 1 one 1. That isn't the point. The point was that he did nothing to cause the 49ers to lose that game. And if you look at 5 of the most critical plays that weren't made by the 49ers in that game, plays that they usually made that season, then this discussion is irrelevant.

1. Goldson knocks out Brown causing dropped int.

2. Brown drops int-different play.

3. the lack of having Goldson, and Brown on the field, leaves Reggie Smith, and Tremaine Brock in coverage on Mario Manningham, both getting beat after Kyle Williams ball off the knee results in turnover deep in 49ers territory.

4. Kyle Williams fumble in over time sealing 49ers fate.

5. Refs quick whistling the play dead where we stripped Bradshaw.

Can you tell me that any of those plays are less important than any bad play that Alex made in that mess, against that defense.

Its like Patrick Willis said when defending Kyle Williams.

"We win, and we lose, as a team."

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Who the **** is Lil Chiefy? Do you speak English at all?
Also, I agree, I dont want to 'Dilfer-drag" around either...(I guess you speak some English, cuz I understood that rant-lol)

You're agreeing with me and you don't even realize it. Lolz
If a Smith-led Chiefs win a Super Bowl, then it is what it is. Nothing to bitch about there. If Smith somehow manages by a miracle of Jesus to win an AFCCCG, then I might be forced to concede an apology to the man. Smith winning a playoff game? Better than expected. Smith winning a wildcard? Big ****ing deal. Smith being above five hundred consistently and for more than two years? Next prospect please.
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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

You're agreeing with me and you don't even realize it. Lolz
If a Smith-led Chiefs win a Super Bowl, then it is what it is. Nothing to bitch about there. If Smith somehow manages by a miracle of Jesus to win an AFCCCG, then I might be forced to concede an apology to the man. Smith winning a playoff game? Better than expected. Smith winning a wildcard? Big ****ing deal. Smith being above five hundred consistently and for more than two years? Next prospect please.
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If she doesn't realize it, it's because your posts are unintelligible.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It appears a Lil Chiefy Syndrome awareness week may be in order.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Being competitive with a rookie for two years while he learns the NFL curve? Acceptable. Being competitive with Alex Smith for two years and no championship appearance? Bullshit.
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[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

You're agreeing with me and you don't even realize it. Lolz
If a Smith-led Chiefs win a Super Bowl, then it is what it is. Nothing to bitch about there. If Smith somehow manages by a miracle of Jesus to win an AFCCCG, then I might be forced to concede an apology to the man. Smith winning a playoff game? Better than expected. Smith winning a wildcard? Big ****ing deal. Smith being above five hundred consistently and for more than two years? Next prospect please.
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I agree with you to a point, and I think most people around here do. We want to win and have a shot at. SB Championship. And we'd like it to be more than just a one shot trick pony, barely make it by the hair of our china chin chin (Dilfer). But, where I don't see with you is wanting, praying for failure completely just to prove a point. Just to be right. **** that. I want Alex to prove everyone wrong and get us to the Dance. That's what I want. Will he? I don't know, and I'm certainly not expecting this coming season. But come season 2, I'll be expecting it. I'll be expecting a SB run. Absolutely. And I don't give a **** what QB gets it done. However, AS is the QB, so I hope to god he gets it done with the rest of this team.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by patteeu

If she doesn't realize it, it's because your posts are unintelligible.

His English is terrible, but he was clear about not wanting Axl Smith to have "premium" success. I disagree with that line of thinking, whole heatedly!