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Deberg_1990 · 01-12-2009, 01:46 PM

Congrats.

Mark McGwires votes are actually going down.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3827833

NEW YORK -- Rickey Henderson sped his way into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot Monday, and Jim Rice made it in on his 15th and final try.

Hall of Fame voting
Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice were elected to the Hall of Fame on Monday. At least 75 percent of the vote is needed for election.

Henderson, baseball's career leader in runs scored and stolen bases, received 94.8 percent of the vote from the Baseball Writers' Association of America, well above the 75 percent needed.

Rice, among baseball's most feared hitters in the late 1970s and early 1980s, got 76.4 percent of the vote after falling just shy with 72.2 percent last year.

Henderson became the 44th player elected in his first year of eligibility. Rice was only the third elected by the BBWAA in his final year, joining Red Ruffing (1967) and Ralph Kiner (1975).

The pair will be inducted into the Hall during ceremonies on July 26 in Cooperstown, N.Y. They will be joined by former Yankees and Indians second baseman Joe Gordon, elected posthumously last month by the Veterans Committee.

Henderson was picked on 511 of 539 ballots and Rice was selected on 412, just more than the 405 needed.

Rice received only 29.8 percent of the vote in 1995, when he appeared on the ballot for the first time. He topped 50 percent for the first time in 2000 and reached 64.8 percent in 2006 -- the highest percentage for a player who wasn't elected in a later year was 63.4 by Gil Hodges in 1983, his final time on the ballot.

Andre Dawson fell 44 votes short with 67 percent. He was followed by Bert Blyleven (62.7 percent), Lee Smith (44.5), Jack Morris (44.0), Tommy John (31.7) and Tim Raines (22.6). John appeared on the ballot for the final time.

Mark McGwire, stigmatized by accusations he used performance-enhancing drugs, received 118 votes (21.9 percent) in his third year of eligibility, down from the 128 votes he got in each of his first two tries.

Henderson, the 1990 AL MVP, was a 10-time All-Star who swiped 1,406 bases, just one shy of 50 percent more than Lou Brock, who is in second place with 938. Henderson batted .279 with 297 homers, 1,115 RBIs, 2,190 walks and 2,295 runs. He owns the modern-day, single-season record with 130 steals in 1982, and the career mark with 81 leadoff homers. He played 25 seasons for Oakland, the Yankees, Toronto, San Diego, Anaheim, the Mets, Seattle, Boston and the Dodgers.

Rice, the 1978 AL MVP, was an eight-time All-Star who hit 382 home runs in 16 seasons with the Red Sox from 1974-89. He had a .298 career batting average and 1,451 RBIs and from 1977-79 averaged .320 with 41 homers and 128 RBIs.

Demonpenz · 01-12-2009, 02:10 PM

Dale Murphy next year !

Jenson71 · 01-12-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

I remember when Cal Ripken JR and Tony Gwynn went in on the same year and Cal had like 99.4% of the vote and Tony Gwynn had 98.2% or something like that.

Who the hell left either of these guys off their ballot? And who put Ripken in but not Gwynn? How can you say one is deserving and not the other one.

It's good to have harsh voters.

MIAdragon · 01-12-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

It's good to have harsh voters.

I agree just not idioits.

Demonpenz · 01-12-2009, 02:14 PM

7x All-Star selection (1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987)
5x Gold Glove Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986)
4x Silver Slugger Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985)
2x NL MVP (1982, 1983)
1988 Roberto Clemente Award
1985 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award
Atlanta Braves #3 retired

Amnorix · 01-12-2009, 02:15 PM

Babe Ruth didn't have 100% for the first time elections. Ty Cobb missed 100% by 6 votes. Cy freaking Young had to wait until year 2, if I remember right.

It's historically been absurdly hard to get into the baseball HOF, by and large, and they just love to leave a guy off who clearly should go in.

Infidel Goat · 01-12-2009, 02:28 PM

If I had a ballot, I would have voted like this:

Henderson
Blyleven
McGwire

And, yes, I understand why plenty of people won't vote for McGwire. I personally think he is an ass...

teedubya · 01-12-2009, 02:33 PM

If it wasn't for Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa in 1998... baseball would still be irrelevant and hated... they brought the passion back to the game... even if they used roids, which many, many were.

I would vote in McGwire.

Jenson71 · 01-12-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

If it wasn't for Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa in 1998... baseball would still be irrelevant and hated... they brought the passion back to the game... even if they used roids, which many, many were.

I would vote in McGwire.

Yeah, 12 year olds loved them. Who cares if they brought excitement to more people? Streakers do that.

01-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice: Baseball HoFer's Congrats. Mark McGwires votes are actually going down. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3827833 NEW YORK -- Rickey Henderson sped his way into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot Monday, and Jim Rice made it in on his 15th and final try. Hall of Fame voting Rickey Henderson and Jim Rice were elected to the Hall of Fame on Monday. At least 75 percent of the vote is needed for election. Henderson, baseball's career leader in runs scored and stolen bases, received 94.8 percent of the vote from the Baseball Writers' Association of America, well above the 75 percent needed. Rice, among baseball's most feared hitters in the late 1970s and early 1980s, got 76.4 percent of the vote after falling just shy with 72.2 percent last year. Henderson became the 44th player elected in his first year of eligibility. Rice was only the third elected by the BBWAA in his final year, joining Red Ruffing (1967) and Ralph Kiner (1975). The pair will be inducted into the Hall during ceremonies on July 26 in Cooperstown, N.Y. They will be joined by former Yankees and Indians second baseman Joe Gordon, elected posthumously last month by the Veterans Committee. Henderson was picked on 511 of 539 ballots and Rice was selected on 412, just more than the 405 needed. Rice received only 29.8 percent of the vote in 1995, when he appeared on the ballot for the first time. He topped 50 percent for the first time in 2000 and reached 64.8 percent in 2006 -- the highest percentage for a player who wasn't elected in a later year was 63.4 by Gil Hodges in 1983, his final time on the ballot. Andre Dawson fell 44 votes short with 67 percent. He was followed by Bert Blyleven (62.7 percent), Lee Smith (44.5), Jack Morris (44.0), Tommy John (31.7) and Tim Raines (22.6). John appeared on the ballot for the final time. Mark McGwire, stigmatized by accusations he used performance-enhancing drugs, received 118 votes (21.9 percent) in his third year of eligibility, down from the 128 votes he got in each of his first two tries. Henderson, the 1990 AL MVP, was a 10-time All-Star who swiped 1,406 bases, just one shy of 50 percent more than Lou Brock, who is in second place with 938. Henderson batted .279 with 297 homers, 1,115 RBIs, 2,190 walks and 2,295 runs. He owns the modern-day, single-season record with 130 steals in 1982, and the career mark with 81 leadoff homers. He played 25 seasons for Oakland, the Yankees, Toronto, San Diego, Anaheim, the Mets, Seattle, Boston and the Dodgers. Rice, the 1978 AL MVP, was an eight-time All-Star who hit 382 home runs in 16 seasons with the Red Sox from 1974-89. He had a .298 career batting average and 1,451 RBIs and from 1977-79 averaged .320 with 41 homers and 128 RBIs.
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Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3102136	7x All-Star selection (1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987) 5x Gold Glove Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986) 4x Silver Slugger Award winner (1982, 1983, 1984, 1985) 2x NL MVP (1982, 1983) 1988 Roberto Clemente Award 1985 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award Atlanta Braves #3 retired __________________
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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Babe Ruth didn't have 100% for the first time elections. Ty Cobb missed 100% by 6 votes. Cy freaking Young had to wait until year 2, if I remember right. It's historically been absurdly hard to get into the baseball HOF, by and large, and they just love to leave a guy off who clearly should go in. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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Infidel Goat Beer Sherpa Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: shackled in a cellar Casino cash: $3972493	If I had a ballot, I would have voted like this: Henderson Blyleven McGwire And, yes, I understand why plenty of people won't vote for McGwire. I personally think he is an ass...
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $9480002	If it wasn't for Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa in 1998... baseball would still be irrelevant and hated... they brought the passion back to the game... even if they used roids, which many, many were. I would vote in McGwire.
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