Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 170

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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ChiefsCountry · 05-19-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

With the GMs in this league showing us how little they valued the QBs in this draft (a mistake, IMO),

If you look at the franchises that needed quarterbacks it really shouldn't suprise you given their track records with quarterbacks - Chiefs, Raiders, Cardinals, and Bills. Not exactly the teams that draft quarterbacks in the first place.

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

At 7.5? Prove it
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Im not starting a flame war. kaepernick counts less than 700k towards their salary cap. they could of kept alex smith if they needed to. They have one of the best cap guys in the business. Paarag. They just wouldn't of redone the contracts of Anthony Davis, and Iupati this year. They weren't going to let alex go for nothing. They are cut throat like that, as any team with assets should be.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Im not starting a flame war. kaepernick counts less than 700k towards their salary cap. they could of kept alex smith if they needed to. They have one of the best cap guys in the business. Paarag. They just wouldn't of redone the contracts of Anthony Davis, and Iupati this year. They weren't going to let alex go for nothing. They are cut throat like that, as any team with assets should be.

so to keep a backup for one year they wouldn't have re done contracts of young starters? That deserved them?

Sorry but that just sounds dumb.
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Messier · 05-19-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so to keep a backup for one year they wouldn't have re done contracts of young starters? That deserved them?

Sorry but that just sounds dumb.
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You said they couldn't afford him. They really could, quite easily

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:01 PM

They HAD to get iupati and Davis this year.

Kap and Aldon Smith come up next year.

Let's not re do iupati an all pro to keep Alex Smith...

How does that sound when you say it FAN?
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**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

You said they couldn't afford him. They really could, quite easily

Again not true.

Prove it.

they needed help to sign draft picks dude
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**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:03 PM

And they easily could have at quite the detriment to the future?

Makes sense
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**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Okay. Fisher won't be a career RT.

Even if he is, Chris Mortensen reported at least a month before the draft, that Andy Reid doesn't view left, as more important than Right, and that they are equal, and they took Fisher with the understanding that he could be a franchise right tackle.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

True. But he very well may be one the next 4 or 5 years.

Correct.

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I'm going to change my prediction from 9-7 to 10-6 with recent events.

Jags aren't a good team and they lost their best receiver for the opener and the Chargers losing Ingram and still not having a LT is gonna hit them hard.

Jags, Bills, Browns and Eagles aren't good teams. I don't think the Titans are that good either since Locker looks like a bust. Add to the fact that Oakland is the worst team in the league and the Chargers look weak.

I think it's a very good possibility we sweep the Raiders and Chargers. The Raiders lost all of their front 7, Huff and DHB.

The Chargers have Rivers, but their OL is still pathetic and they aren't going to get any pressure on the QB this year, which is a recipe for disaster.

We have some tough games, but all but 2 are at home, and one of those games is right after the bye week.

Hopefully we don't get injuries, but as it stands now, I think we are capable of securing a 6th seed.

Those teams all seem to be better. Especially the browns. Eagles are a toss up though, as I have very little confidence in anything chip Kelly is doing. he seems to be jon gruden at the moment, hording qbs like the apocalypse is coming.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

You're getting 7-9. At best.
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Still 5 wins better than last year. And I think the common perception is that your prediction will be a worst case scenario.

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so to keep a backup for one year they wouldn't have re done contracts of young starters? That deserved them?

Sorry but that just sounds dumb.
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It may sound dumb to you, but the fact remains that they had less than 10 mil total tied up in the qb position, and were dealing from a position of strength. I don't think there is any way they would of cut him. I really don't.

**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 12:10 PM

For us 2 years is nothing.

Smith will be gone and we'll be on to our new last grasp in no time...

**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

They HAD to get iupati and Davis this year.

Kap and Aldon Smith come up next year.

Let's not re do iupati an all pro to keep Alex Smith...

How does that sound when you say it FAN?
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It doesn't make sense to me, but again, we are talking from a business perspective, that they weren't going to just let alex smith go, and yes, essentially the chiefs were bidding against themselves, and they went all in. It was not smart in my eyes if I were a chiefs fan, I just understood why they did it. Moderate contract, that they can cut after next season if he flops, and if he doesn't, considering that he hasn't demanded an extension, it almost becomes worth while if Andy Reid is right, and Alex Smith is indeed the qb that even I don't think he is. That's what Fan says I guess.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:12 PM

Wait they haven't even extended iupati.

They are talking but ithasn't happened. Lmao.
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**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

It doesn't make sense to me, but again, we are talking from a business perspective, that they weren't going to just let alex smith go, and yes, essentially the chiefs were bidding against themselves, and they went all in.

Soooooooo...they were willing to let Smith walk...

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 12:13 PM

They are going to give a second/thirdnext year for a player they are cutting?

Makes it seem even worse that it could be a possibility
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**Mav** · 05-19-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Wait they haven't even extended iupati.

They are talking but ithasn't happened. Lmao.
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Reports are he will be done before Camp. And aldon smith wont have his done for two more years. Next year they have to resign Cowboy, and Crabtree before they hit the market, and redo Kaep.

**Rausch** · 05-19-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

They are going to give a second/thirdnext year for a player they are cutting?

Makes it seem even worse that it could be a possibility
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Smith being let go after year 2 is a PROBABILITY...

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