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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-08-2013, 03:46 PM   #1066
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:48 PM   #1067
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The Chiefs nearly beat 3 AFC playoff teams at home last year without even trying to attempt a forward pass. If you can't see the talent they have you have your head up horseface's ass.
The Broncos nearly beat the SB champs... but they didn't.

The 49ers nearly won the Super Bowl... but they didn't.

The Chiefs nearly won a third game last season... but they didn't.

I see a lot of talent on the Chiefs, but it's nearly all at positions that don't really matter. I'll say 5 wins.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:52 PM   #1068
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:53 PM   #1069
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The Broncos nearly beat the SB champs... but they didn't.

The 49ers nearly won the Super Bowl... but they didn't.

The Chiefs nearly won a third game last season... but they didn't.

I see a lot of talent on the Chiefs, but it's nearly all at positions that don't really matter. I'll say 5 wins.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:58 PM   #1070
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I didn't enjoy the 2010 season, not really. I didn't see anything more than a fluky playoff run (based on a weak schedule) - at best - coming for that year.

People I work with were all about the Chiefs' chances entering that season, and thought I was crazy for thinking the Chiefs had no chance even if they did manage to scrape into the playoffs.

I felt on August 1, 2010 that the Chiefs had literally no shot at winning a playoff game or making a real run. Which is the same way I felt about the Chiefs on August 1, 2012. I was never emotionally checked into 2010, just like I was never emotionally checked into 2012, because I could see a replay of 1992, 1994, 1997, 2003, etc. coming.
August 1, I get.

But on December 9, 2010 you really didn't feel any differently about that team than you did on December 9, 2012?

That's a hardcore commitment to being checked out right there. I understand a little bit of cynicism, but after beating the Broncos in an admittedly ugly game (after shellacking the Seahawks the week before) the Chiefs sat at 10-4 and looked like like a legitimately decent NFL football team. On December 9, 2012 the Chiefs had just finished getting dismantled by the Cleveland Browns to fall to 2-11.

Really? Those two seasons, those two points in time felt no different to you?

Honestly - I just think that's being unfair to the franchise. If those two scenarios engender absolutely no difference in how you feel about the franchise, you are being dogmatic (QB or bust!), whether you want to believe it or not.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:14 PM   #1071
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August 1, I get.

But on December 9, 2010 you really didn't feel any differently about that team than you did on December 9, 2012?

That's a hardcore commitment to being checked out right there. I understand a little bit of cynicism, but after beating the Broncos in an admittedly ugly game (after shellacking the Seahawks the week before) the Chiefs sat at 10-4 and looked like like a legitimately decent NFL football team. On December 9, 2012 the Chiefs had just finished getting dismantled by the Cleveland Browns to fall to 2-11.

Really? Those two seasons, those two points in time felt no different to you?

Honestly - I just think that's being unfair to the franchise. If those two scenarios engender absolutely no difference in how you feel about the franchise, you are being dogmatic (QB or bust!), whether you want to believe it or not.
I made $100 in a bet with a co-worker before Christmas in 2010 that the Chiefs would lose their opening round playoff game by at least two touchdowns.... I'd say my thoughts about their playoff success were pretty consistent from August (or really, May) that year until the shellacking the Ravens dropped on the Chiefs.

It's not that I don't watch or don't enjoy watching football or don't root for the Chiefs. It's just that, emotionally, I didn't see anything in 2010 (or 2012 or 2013) to convince me to emotionally invest and hope for something more than a nice diversion for a few hours on Sunday.
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I made $100 in a bet with a co-worker before Christmas in 2010 that the Chiefs would lose their opening round playoff game by at least two touchdowns.... I'd say my thoughts about their playoff success were pretty consistent from August (or really, May) that year until the shellacking the Ravens dropped on the Chiefs.

It's not that I don't watch or don't enjoy watching football or don't root for the Chiefs. It's just that, emotionally, I didn't see anything in 2010 (or 2012 or 2013) to convince me to emotionally invest and hope for something more than a nice diversion for a few hours on Sunday.
AH HA!!!

So you admit that when they're a ten win team they do provide you with a nice diversion for a few hours on Sunday....

What else did you ignore, Mr. Fung?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:08 PM   #1075
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AH HA!!!

So you admit that when they're a ten win team they do provide you with a nice diversion for a few hours on Sunday....

What else did you ignore, Mr. Fung?
They're an enjoyable diversion for me regardless of how many wins they have...

Mr. Kardashian, I suggest you have a long talk with your daughter.
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They're an enjoyable diversion for me regardless of how many wins they have...

Mr. Kardashian, I suggest you have a long talk with your daughter.
Damn...if last season was an enjoyable diversion, then we'll just let you walk on an insanity plea.

Well played, sir.
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Damn...if last season was an enjoyable diversion, then we'll just let you walk on an insanity plea.

Well played, sir.
If you're willing to laugh at and mock your team, you can find enjoyment in any contest/beatdown, if you're not emotionally invested. (losing 2x to the effing Raiders not included).
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I don't know what you negative people are argueing about?

If you hate the chiefs and Alex Bad Ass Smith so much- why are u posting on a chiefs site??

What else were they suppose to do? I am not a fan of Clark Hunt- but he completely over hauled this team. As a long time fan I am excited to see what happens this year- we have a lot of talent.
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"Hatred" and "subjective analysis" are not the same thing.

I think you might have taken a wrong turn on your way to rainbowsandunicornsplanet.
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"Hatred" and "subjective analysis" are not the same thing.

I think you might have taken a wrong turn on your way to rainbowsandunicornsplanet.
"subjective analysis" I should make a thread on all the names Alex Smith has been called on here so far- and he has not even thrown a pass-lol

or how about calling every draft pick a bust and they havnt signed their contracts yet?

Last year was a nightmare and for Clark to turn it around like he has is amazing. There is a fine line between voicing a legit opinion based on performance and just being a negative dick. Unfortunately negativity rules this place and anyone excited about this team is a "true fan" now.
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