Yasiel Puig

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ethier has never been anything more than a solid starter in his best years. That contract was absolutely asinine.

[Thig Lyfe]

Griffey was my HERO, man.

[Hootie]

from 1992 to 2007 Barry Bonds' lowest .OPS (the most important metric to determine how good of a hitter someone is) was .999.

Griffey only had an .OPS over 1.000 4 times and was only over .900 TWICE from 2000-2010.

and here is my best Barry Bonds proof that steroids didn't suddenly turn him from star to superstar...that he was always superstar

1993: 129/46/123 .336/.458/1.136 (29 SBs)
1994: (Strike Season) 37 HR's in 112 games

He was raking better than Miguel freaking Cabrera in 1993. He was on pace for like 55 HR's in 1994.

Barry Bonds was always the best in the game. Steroids just turned him into a guy that somehow managed to get on base 61% of the time in a single year

[Hootie]

and as much as I love Griffey (and I do), his WAR from 2000-2010 was BARELY above replacement level most seasons.

Griffey was a sensation in the 90s. He was then washed up for 10 years. I'm happy he (and Frank Thomas) didn't succomb to peer pressure and roid up...

but I can also respect the best roider in the roid era...Barry Bonds was ****ing awesome.

[Hootie]

I'm not trying to be a dick...I just find it incredibly hard to believe a backup bowler can average a 225...when the best of the best that bowl at our local bowling alley will average that every 5 years or so...and generally between 215 and 220.

[highBOLTage]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Give it up. You might be able to kid yourself into thinking you averaged 225 without knowing anything about the game and with a girlish backhand release, but any real bowler knows that your story is total bullshit.

You may have bowled a 225 GAME once. Anyone can do it once. There's a huge ****ing difference between doing it once and AVERAGING 225.

If I get a hole in one, does that mean my average score for 18 holes of golf is 18?

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

I'm not trying to be a dick...I just find it incredibly hard to believe a backup bowler can average a 225...when the best of the best that bowl at our local bowling alley will average that every 5 years or so...and generally between 215 and 220.

Maybe Baby Lee is Amish.

[Bambi]

[TLO]

I've bowled a 300 before. Bowled it 2 years ago when I was 22 at Olympia Lanes in St. Joe. It was during a practice game, but who the **** cares. A 300 is still a 300.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

I've bowled a 300 before. Bowled it 2 years ago when I was 22 at Olympia Lanes in St. Joe. It was during a practice game, but who the **** cares. A 300 is still a 300.

A 300 in practice is a nice accomplishment. Congratulations!

But it doesn't really count. I've bowled four 300s in league competition and one in a tournament. I've also bowled two 300s while practicing. Whenever anybody asks me how many 300s I've bowled, I always say "five". It would never even occur to me to say "seven".

Nobody cares how many home runs Eric Hosmer hits in batting practice.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

A 300 in practice is a nice accomplishment. Congratulations!

But it doesn't really count. I've bowled four 300s in league competition and one in a tournament. I've also bowled two 300s while practicing. Whenever anybody asks me how many 300s I've bowled, I always say "five". It would never even occur to me to say "seven".

Nobody cares how many home runs Eric Hosmer hits in batting practice.

Sorry that isn't a good analogy. Batting practice and facing a live pitcher throwing sliders, change ups and 90 plus mph heat is drastically different than an ex back up catcher throwing straight 70 mph meatballs in batting practice.

Are the pins moving when you bowl in a league game? That would be a better analogy.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by VAChief

Sorry that isn't a good analogy. Batting practice and facing a live pitcher throwing sliders, change ups and 90 plus mph heat is drastically different than an ex back up catcher throwing straight 70 mph meatballs in batting practice.

Are the pins moving when you bowl in a league game? That would be a better analogy.

I always love it when non-bowlers try to argue about bowling. If you actually knew anything about the sport of bowling you would know that the analogy is spot on. When you bowl in a league you are bowling on a pair of lanes instead of a single lane, and you've got 9 other bowlers throwing their balls in roughly the same area on the lanes.

Just the fact that you are bowling on two lanes instead of one makes it a lot more difficult because you almost always have to play slightly different angles to the pocket on each lane because the lanes aren't identical. Plus, the 9 other bowlers cause the oil on the lanes to move and break down, so you have to anticipate the changes and make slight adjustments (usually by moving your feet a board or two on the approach and/or a moving your target on the lane a board or two to either the left or the right). When the oil breaks down, the ball hooks more.

So to answer your question, No, the pins don't move. But the oil moves A LOT in league play, and it doesn't really move at all in open play.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

I always love it when non-bowlers try to argue about bowling. If you actually knew anything about the sport of bowling you would know that the analogy is spot on. When you bowl in a league you are bowling on a pair of lanes instead of a single lane, and you've got 9 other bowlers throwing their balls in roughly the same area on the lanes.

Just the fact that you are bowling on two lanes instead of one makes it a lot more difficult because you almost always have to play slightly different angles to the pocket on each lane because the lanes aren't identical. Plus, the 9 other bowlers cause the oil on the lanes to move and break down, so you have to anticipate the changes and make slight adjustments (usually by moving your feet a board or two on the approach and/or a moving your target on the lane a board or two to either the left or the right). When the oil breaks down, the ball hooks more.

So to answer your question, No, the pins don't move. But the oil moves A LOT in league play, and it doesn't really move at all in open play.

I have bowled in leagues, and yes there is a difference both physically and mentally. I also played baseball through college and hardball leagues into my late 30's. The comparison between batting practice and bowling practice as it relates to what you face in a game is quite a stretch of the imagination.

[SAUTO]

To, me a legit 300 game is a 300 game.

Why would you say anything else?
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