XBox 360 vs. PS3

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Does 360 have DLNA?

Does it support streaming from a DLNA media server, you mean? Yes, it does.

The XBox can do pretty much everything the PS3 can do (more actually).

The deal breaker for me was having to pay M$ to use Netflix.

[007]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Does it support streaming from a DLNA media server, you mean? Yes, it does.

The XBox can do pretty much everything the PS3 can do (more actually).

The deal breaker for me was having to pay M$ to use Netflix.

Well, the ps3 has bluray. Something xbox will never be able to do.

as far as ease of use, I find the ps3 much easier. the xbox dashboard has become so damn convulted. It is a mess now.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Guru

Well, the ps3 has bluray. Something xbox will never be able to do.

as far as ease of use, I find the ps3 much easier. the xbox dashboard has become so damn convulted. It is a mess now.

I don't have many BluRay discs so that's really a non-issue for me.

Dead-on about the dashboard. 90% of the clutter on the dashboard is apps you can't use if you're not a Live Gold member.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Guru

Well, the ps3 has bluray. Something xbox will never be able to do.

as far as ease of use, I find the ps3 much easier. the xbox dashboard has become so damn convulted. It is a mess now.

The PS3 interface is a ****ing nightmare... Ads have really taken over the 360 dashboard but it's still FAR easier to maneuver than the PS3. Shit is tucked away in various places where you wouldn't think they'd be -- example: game saves.
And lets not even talk about game installs and updates... I can't tell you how many times I've purchased a game just to go home and wait 1 hour or more for the game to install.. then update.. then restart... then install.. etc etc. I much prefer the 360 method of updating (usually just a few megabytes)....
And we're not even talking about the horrible download speeds over PSN and the shit layout of their PSN store.

With all that said -- I play my PS3 10 times as much as I do my 360... Just saying.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Guru

all the people that want the most for their money have the PS3.

COMPLETELY WORTH IT

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

The PS3 interface is a ****ing nightmare... Ads have really taken over the 360 dashboard but it's still FAR easier to maneuver than the PS3. Shit is tucked away in various places where you wouldn't think they'd be -- example: game saves.

What? My game saves are two slots above the game I'm playing, in the SAME MENU. Not sure what you mean by this.

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

And lets not even talk about game installs and updates... I can't tell you how many times I've purchased a game just to go home and wait 1 hour or more for the game to install.. then update.. then restart... then install.. etc etc. I much prefer the 360 method of updating (usually just a few megabytes)....

Now this one is true. Although it doesn't happen every time. It's weird.

[007]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What? My game saves are two slots above the game I'm playing, in the SAME MENU. Not sure what you mean by this.



Now this one is true. Although it doesn't happen every time. It's weird.

I haven't dealt with a game install since MGS4.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What? My game saves are two slots above the game I'm playing, in the SAME MENU. Not sure what you mean by this.

Hey Quik, I think I figured out what you mean.

It's not hard to find the game saves themselves, they're fairly accessible. But I could see where somebody playing several games at once could get overwhelmed by the lack of organization. All of the game saves are jumbled together in one sub-menu. On the XBox, your game saves are organized by their respective game - that doesn't appear to be the case on PS3.

That being said, I only play one game at a time mostly so for me, it's not a big issue.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hey Quik, I think I figured out what you mean.

It's not hard to find the game saves themselves, they're fairly accessible. But I could see where somebody playing several games at once could get overwhelmed by the lack of organization. All of the game saves are jumbled together in one sub-menu. On the XBox, your game saves are organized by their respective game - that doesn't appear to be the case on PS3.

That being said, I only play one game at a time mostly so for me, it's not a big issue.

Personally, I didn't really struggle to find them -- they weren't where I thought they'd be, but I know it's a common complaint where people aren't sure which file to delete or where their data actually is.
It should be accessible from the game shortcut menu (highlighting your game and selecting Triangle).
Again, I own both systems and definitely play my PS3 more -- but both of these systems have an equal number of faults, IMO.... that is... until The Last of Us comes out and makes all other games obsolete.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The deal breaker for me was having to pay M$ to use Netflix.

Yeah, and then Netflix charges to use their service as well!!!



I'm kidding. I read further down where you aren't an online player - which in that case, I could understand the frustration of having to pay $40/year for a gold acct, then paying for Netflix just to stream Netflix to your console. That would be a waste.

[007]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Yeah, and then Netflix charges to use their service as well!!!



I'm kidding. I read further down where you aren't an online player - which in that case, I could understand the frustration of having to pay $40/year for a gold acct, then paying for Netflix just to stream Netflix to your console. That would be a waste.

It is dumb as hell that xbox charges just to have that service. Double whamy.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Guru

It is dumb as hell that xbox charges just to have that service. Double whamy.

Meh. They are pretty clear about it..... you want to go online, you have to pay to be gold member. They don't expect anyone to spend the money on an Xbox just to watch Netflix....or use whatever app they have. Same with PS3.....they don't expect you to buy a system just to watch Netflix.

The difference is that PS3 doesn't charge to go online, but when/if they do, you can rest assured that Netflix and every other online app will require their version of a gold acct to use it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Meh. They are pretty clear about it..... you want to go online, you have to pay to be gold member. They don't expect anyone to spend the money on an Xbox just to watch Netflix....or use whatever app they have. Same with PS3.....they don't expect you to buy a system just to watch Netflix.

The difference is that PS3 doesn't charge to go online, but when/if they do, you can rest assured that Netflix and every other online app will require their version of a gold acct to use it.

The ultimate appeal of the PS3 and XBox (and Microsoft has openly admitted this in interviews, etc.) is that a single box can service ALL of your home entertainment needs. That's why the next generation XBox not only has A/V out, it also has A/V IN.

The problem is that most of us see the all-in-one aspect as a CONVENIENCE and Microsoft seems to think that it's a PRIVELEGE, one you should PAY for. That's a poor view of things from a consumer perspective, but that's to be expected when it comes to M$.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The ultimate appeal of the PS3 and XBox (and Microsoft has openly admitted this in interviews, etc.) is that a single box can service ALL of your home entertainment needs. That's why the next generation XBox not only has A/V out, it also has A/V IN.

The problem is that most of us see the all-in-one aspect as a CONVENIENCE and Microsoft seems to think that it's a PRIVELEGE, one you should PAY for. That's a poor view of things from a consumer perspective, but that's to be expected when it comes to M$.

Sure, I understand and I don't disagree with you. Honestly, I'm surprised Sony hasn't gone the same route at this point, but I'd be equally surprised if they didn't at some point. Maybe with their next gen console.

I just personally don't have an issue with paying a little over $8/month for 4 live gold accounts and to be able to use a single device to play games online, purchase movies, use Netflix, etc etc etc. We get our moneys worth and then some, so it's not a big deal to me.

But, if you aren't going to use all of the features provided in a live acct, I fully understand that the cost outweighs the usefulness of it. If I didn't play online, or movies, or Netflix, I wouldn't want to pay for a gold acct just to do something I could get for free with another console.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Sure, I understand and I don't disagree with you. Honestly, I'm surprised Sony hasn't gone the same route at this point, but I'd be equally surprised if they didn't at some point. Maybe with their next gen console.

I just personally don't have an issue with paying a little over $8/month for 4 live gold accounts and to be able to use a single device to play games online, purchase movies, use Netflix, etc etc etc. We get our moneys worth and then some, so it's not a big deal to me.

But, if you aren't going to use all of the features provided in a live acct, I fully understand that the cost outweighs the usefulness of it. If I didn't play online, or movies, or Netflix, I wouldn't want to pay for a gold acct just to do something I could get for free with another console.

That's what it boiled down to for me - the ONLY online feature I was using was Netflix and I couldn't justify doubling my Netflix costs that way.

Also, the straw the broke the camel's back was that I bought a game for couch co-op and it didn't work on the 360. On PS3, both accounts are "online" and off you go.

On 360, it required that both of us have a Gold account to play together on the same XBox, in the same room.