Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 27

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-06-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Pennington was incapable of winning jackshit.

He played for two different franchises and while he was a "good guy", he was nothing more than a tease.

I sincerely hope that Andy Reid and John Dorsey avoid "teasing" Chiefs fans for the next 7 years.

Yeah, there's certainly nothing "teasing" about making moves that ensure optimum Wild Card oppotunities for years to come!
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**BossChief** · 03-06-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Fuuuck youuuu.

You're the person that said just last month that you'd spend a 2nd round pick on Stanzi.

You're freaking delusional. Or you're incapable of rational thought.

Either way, you're embarrassing yourself. Please stop.

Say that a few more times. Don't care. Not taking the bait.

There is a reason you won't answer and you know what it is...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-06-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

I still need one more person to bet me 50.00 that they don't. I am willing to take your money as well.

If I had fifty to piss away, I'd absolutely do it.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Say that a few more times. Don't care. Not taking the bait.

There is a reason you won't answer and you know what it is...

What the **** are you talking about now?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

New Plan: a new Geno thread EVERY DAY until mass-seppeku is achieved.
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And I think that Bukakke in Little Toyko is more than apropos for the Genobaters.

**BossChief** · 03-06-2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** are you talking about now?

You've seen enough of Barkley. Would you rather have him or Chance Warmack?

I can't believe that you caught the "wait till there is a perfect prospect" disease.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-06-2013, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You've seen enough of Barkley. Would you rather have him or Chance Warmack?

I can't believe that you caught the "wait till there is a perfect prospect" disease.

Warmack? When? What the **** are you talking about?

I've seen Barkley and while his 2011 season was stellar, his 2012 was not. The guy is coming off of a major shoulder injury and won't throw in front of scouts for more than three weeks.

Why in the **** would you hedge your best on that guy? He had questionable arm strength before the injury.

B14ckmon · 03-06-2013, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

I still need one more person to bet me 50.00 that they don't. I am willing to take your money as well.

I'd be willing to bet $50 that the Chiefs do not take a QB.

Even more if it's someone in Eastern Iowa.

KCWolfman · 03-06-2013, 12:46 AM

2006
Tennesse - Vince Young
Arizona - Matt Leinart
Denver - Jay Cutler
1 Post Season win among them

2007
Jamarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
No Post Season wins

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
10 Post Season wins/2 Post Season winners

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
4 Post Season wins/1 Post Season winner

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
No Post Season Wins

2011
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
No Post Season wins

2012
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
No Post Season wins

4 of 21 Quarterbacks chosen in the first round over the last 6 seasons have post season wins.

Quarterbacks with the most post season wins:
Tom Brady - 6th round
Joe Montana - 3rd round
Terry Bradshaw - 1st round
John Elway - 1st round
Brett Favre - 2nd round
Troy Aikman - 1st round
Roger Staubach - 10th round
Ben Roethlisberger - 1st round
Bart Starr - 17th round
Kurt Warner - not drafted
Joe Flacco - 1st round

5 of 11 Qbs with the most playoff wins were chosen in the first round.

If we go to Superbowl victories, the odds are even worse for the first round QBs.

While I understand the position is flashy, it is not the only position on the field. Hopefully Andy Reid and the Chiefs see the same thing.

KCWolfman · 03-06-2013, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

I'd be willing to bet $50 that the Chiefs do not take a QB.

Even more if it's someone in Eastern Iowa.

No, sorry. I am on that side of the bet. I am looking for Genoholics who are willing to part with their money.

okcchief · 03-06-2013, 12:48 AM

A Chad Pennington/Will Shields debate. I knew the day would come if I was patient.

KCWolfman · 03-06-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

A Chad Pennington/Will Shields debate. I knew the day would come if I was patient.

!

This is what we deserve for 2-14

Chiefs=Champions · 03-06-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

If we go to Superbowl victories, the odds are even worse for the first round QBs.

...

Add Flacco.

**cdcox** · 03-06-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

...

Add Flacco.

Brees and Favre were at the top of the 2nd round. And Staubach would have been first round if it hadn't been for the whole Navy thing.

Hammock Parties · 03-06-2013, 01:31 AM

Amazing how the true fans just don't ****ing get it...year after year...completely ignorant.

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1531925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	2006 Tennesse - Vince Young Arizona - Matt Leinart Denver - Jay Cutler 1 Post Season win among them 2007 Jamarcus Russell Brady Quinn No Post Season wins 2008 Matt Ryan Joe Flacco 10 Post Season wins/2 Post Season winners 2009 Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman 4 Post Season wins/1 Post Season winner 2010 Sam Bradford Tim Tebow No Post Season Wins 2011 Cam Newton Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder No Post Season wins 2012 Andrew Luck Robert Griffin Ryan Tannehill Brandon Weeden No Post Season wins 4 of 21 Quarterbacks chosen in the first round over the last 6 seasons have post season wins. Quarterbacks with the most post season wins: Tom Brady - 6th round Joe Montana - 3rd round Terry Bradshaw - 1st round John Elway - 1st round Brett Favre - 2nd round Troy Aikman - 1st round Roger Staubach - 10th round Ben Roethlisberger - 1st round Bart Starr - 17th round Kurt Warner - not drafted Joe Flacco - 1st round 5 of 11 Qbs with the most playoff wins were chosen in the first round. If we go to Superbowl victories, the odds are even worse for the first round QBs. While I understand the position is flashy, it is not the only position on the field. Hopefully Andy Reid and the Chiefs see the same thing. __________________ How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! Samuel Adams Last edited by KCWolfman; 03-06-2013 at 01:17 AM..
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4740478	Amazing how the true fans just don't ****ing get it...year after year...completely ignorant. __________________ Chiefs game films
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