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**Tribal Warfare** · 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-10-2013, 05:17 PM

Jaws is a buffoon though

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-10-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Oh, but being a crybaby quitter of your team is wonderful?

Imagine if the team players, FO, and coaches gave up as pitifully as you. Don't get internet butthurt at some real fans telling you to grow a pair and stand with your team. Be ashamed that someone should have to tell you that in the first place. You want to be a pussy and quit on your team? Hey, that is your right. Just don't expect everyone to roll over in the ditch and rot away with you.

Logic is not your friend.

I had this same debate 4 years ago with trolls like you.

How'd that turn out?

And guess who is still here?

That's kinda the opposite of "quitter", but that doesn't mesh with your "bad fan" schtick.

Whoops.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-10-2013, 05:29 PM

It is very much Deja Vu. We need Hootie back though....

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-10-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

It is very much Deja Vu. We need Hootie back though....

Deja vu all over again, as Yogi would say.

Funny how these guy come over and try to claim others are bad fans.

Like they know anything about suffering through 40 years of mediocrity.

How tough must it be to be a fan of a team with 5 Lombardi Trophies.

Sandy Vagina · 07-10-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And guess who is still here?

That's kinda the opposite of "quitter", but that doesn't mesh with your "bad fan" schtick.

Whoops.

You're still here because you want what you want... and if the team doesn't give you what you want? Then you quit on them and wait till they do. You are just a peculiar type of bandwagoner, is all.

Any type of mature and reasonable fan should have hope that their team will succeed. New staff... new GM and coordinators... new personnel.

You ARE a quitter because you won't even allow them to suit up before you bail out on them. Just because you hang around in your cloud of despair doesn't make you a worthy fan. Think the FO, coaches, and players would want someone like you even around? Hell no. You are the worst kind of fan. You may as well don a Raiders, Chargers, Broncs jersey... you offer the same support of the Chiefs as they.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-10-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Deja vu all over again, as Yogi would say.

Funny how these guy come over and try to claim others are bad fans.

Like they know anything about suffering through 40 years of mediocrity.

How tough must it be to be a fan of a team with 5 Lombardi Trophies.

No titles since '97!!! The horror!!

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-10-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

You're still here because you want what you want... and if the team doesn't give you what you want? Then you quit on them and wait till they do. You are just a peculiar type of bandwagoner, is all.

Any type of mature and reasonable fan should have hope that their team will succeed. New staff... new GM and coordinators... new personnel.

You ARE a quitter because you won't even allow them to suit up before you bail out on them. Just because you hang around in your cloud of despair doesn't make you a worthy fan. Think the FO, coaches, and players would want someone like you even around? Hell no. You are the worst kind of fan. You may as well don a Raiders, Chargers, Broncs jersey... you offer the same support of the Chiefs as they.

Zip it. You have no idea what it's like being a Chiefs fan...NONE!!

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 07-10-2013, 05:58 PM

Sean Salisbury's penis pic is #33, sorry Castle.

ChiefsCountry · 07-10-2013, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

You're still here because you want what you want... and if the team doesn't give you what you want? Then you quit on them and wait till they do. You are just a peculiar type of bandwagoner, is all.

Any type of mature and reasonable fan should have hope that their team will succeed. New staff... new GM and coordinators... new personnel.

You ARE a quitter because you won't even allow them to suit up before you bail out on them. Just because you hang around in your cloud of despair doesn't make you a worthy fan. Think the FO, coaches, and players would want someone like you even around? Hell no. You are the worst kind of fan. You may as well don a Raiders, Chargers, Broncs jersey... you offer the same support of the Chiefs as they.

Shut the **** up you worthless ****. There is no bandwagon Chiefs fan you ****ing troll.

duncan_idaho · 07-10-2013, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

You're still here because you want what you want... and if the team doesn't give you what you want? Then you quit on them and wait till they do. You are just a peculiar type of bandwagoner, is all.

Any type of mature and reasonable fan should have hope that their team will succeed. New staff... new GM and coordinators... new personnel.

You ARE a quitter because you won't even allow them to suit up before you bail out on them. Just because you hang around in your cloud of despair doesn't make you a worthy fan. Think the FO, coaches, and players would want someone like you even around? Hell no. You are the worst kind of fan. You may as well don a Raiders, Chargers, Broncs jersey... you offer the same support of the Chiefs as they.

No, the worst kind of fan is a guy who has multiple "teams" in the same sport/league.

A close second is the fan who likes certain players more than his team.

Rasputin · 07-10-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

No, the worst kind of fan is a guy who has multiple "teams" in the same sport/league.

A close second is the fan who likes certain players more than his team.

The worst worst fans are fans that tell other fans of other teams how to be fans of that team.

MagicHef · 07-10-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

The worst worst fans are fans that tell other fans of other teams how to be fans of that team.

The worst fans are fans of the fans that tell fans when they're fans or aren't fans.

BigBeauford · 07-10-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

The worst fans are fans of the fans that tell fans when they're fans or aren't fans.

**BigMeatballDave** · 07-10-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sometimes I wonder if these two are actually new members, or if they are mults - because they're spewing the exact same bullshit about Alex Smith that was said about Cassel when he was traded here.

Damn near verbatim.

Give him a chance.

He's a hard worker.

All the experts think this is great for us.

Unless you can say, "he's an elite or near-elite QB", then I don't give a shit.

Garbage out, garbage in.

Rinse, repeat.

Clay pimped Cassel more than anyone 4 yrs ago.

T-Town · 07-10-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I could give two shits if they beat Jacksonville, have a winning record mid-season, or make the playoffs.

The goal is to WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.

And sorry, but you and I both know that's not going to happen in KC as long as Smith is the starting QB.

If you love mediocrity, Alex Smith is Aaron Rodgers.

Those of us that have lived and breathed with this organization for 30-40 years is sick of settling for mediocre.

So take your, "I'm a better fan than you" schtick and **** yourself.

This a thousand ****ing times. I, and I'm assuming 90% of everyone else here could give a damn about a 10 win season then bowing out first round of the playoffs. Sure, considering that last year we were 2-14 its a good season, but I'm tired of only winning games that don't get you rings.

Chiefs fans have seen this same movie over and over again. Trade/sign somebody's cast off, think though they have their limitations its better than everything we have so we really got a steal with our high draft pick we traded. Then after 3+ years of a 9-7 ceiling (or 10-6 and a division title if the planets align) we get tired of our cast off and send him packing, only to try the next retread with limitations. I am definitely one of the younger guys here but this has been my favorite team since I started watching football and I only vaguely remember the last time we won a playoff game. Trying this shit over and over again is the very definition of insanity, and Chiefs fans want the hell out of the loony bin.

And really? Bandwagon Chiefs fans? Lol

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Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $912813	Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters The Kansas City Star Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks. That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live. Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is). Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith: “A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith. “The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132. “Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL. “This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route. “One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling. “It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.” Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far: No. 32 Matt Flynn No. 31 Jake Locker No. 30 Kevin Kolb No. 29 Chad Henne No. 28 Mark Sanchez No. 27 Christian Ponder No. 26 Brandon Weeden No. 25 Michael Vick No. 24 Ryan Tannehill No. 23 Carson Palmer No. 22 Sam Bradford No. 21 Josh Freeman
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