Chiefs Someone IS "pushing" Matt Cassell...and it AIN'T Tyler freaking Thigpen - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 08-18-2009, 07:29 PM

OK, cheap shot at Thiggy, but this is intriguing. At the very least it should serve up a huge plate of crow to ANYONE who ever bashed Croyle backers. The kid can flat PLAY. He ALWAYS had the ability.

If a miracle happens and he stays healthy...who knows?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-kansas-city/

Croyle making a move in Kansas City?

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 18, 2009 8:23 PM ET

Over the weekend, we almost wrote a post on Brodie Croyle appearing to pass Tyler Thigpen on Kansas City's quarterback depth chart. Ultimately, it didn't make the cut.

On Tuesday, Kansas City Star writer Kent Babb wrote that he thought Croyle was playing so well, "he's threatening [Matt] Cassel's job."

Now that's a post.

Babb's bold declaration -- on Twitter, not in the newspaper -- defies logic. Not only did the Chiefs trade for Cassel to be the starter, they handed him a huge contract only a month ago.

Seeing Cassel on the bench would be the most surprising development of a preseason in which Michael Vick became Donovan McNabb's teammate.

Then again, Chiefs coach Todd Haley didn't douse water on the notion Tuesday. Asked if Cassel has been the best quarterback in camp, Haley said: "I'll hold off on answering that."

We've read that Cassel has been inconsistent at times, but overall the reviews of his camp performance have been positive. Croyle played well in Kansas City's preseason opener, but it's hard to believe that would be enough to threaten Cassel.

It is clear, though, that Tyler Thigpen is the forgotten man in Kansas City. Babb wonders if Thigpen will even make the team.

It's also clear that Chiefs coach Todd Haley thinks his team needs some tough love after the Herm Edwards era. Asked Tuesday about Brett Favre's return, Haley turned the focus back inward.

"I'm just worried about this house. It's on fire, and I'm trying to keep it from burning down."

Your 2009 Kansas City Chiefs, ladies and gentlemen!

Just Passin' By · 08-18-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

No need to bury the head and say everything is OKAY...

I don't have my head buried in the sand. It's just an idiotic position for those people to take, and it tells me they aren't worth listening to. Or, to put it another way....

At Patsfans.com, earlier this year, there was actually a thread where people were arguing that the team should keep Cassel and trade Brady. That thread immediately let me know who the biggest assclowns on the board were.

The notion that Croyle's going to beat out Cassel if Cassel's healthy isn't quite that reeruned, but it's trying hard to achieve that status.

**CosmicPal** · 08-18-2009, 07:48 PM

No job is safe in football. Unless Herm is your coach.

Hammock Parties · 08-18-2009, 07:48 PM

Let's not forget that Herm is a quarterback's worst nightmare.

It IS possible Croyle might survive in the NFL given competent coaching + protection.

**DeezNutz** · 08-18-2009, 07:49 PM

If Croyle and Thigpen could be traded, they should be. If that's not possible, they should be cut.

Both are about as useful as a gorgeous pair of tits on a bear.

**DeezNutz** · 08-18-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Let's not forget that Herm is a quarterback's worst nightmare.

It IS possible Croyle might survive in the NFL given competent coaching + protection.

No, it's not.

That fragile sumbitch was hurt in his first camp when he fell over a lineman. Give me a ****ing break.

Secret Service couldn't protect his ass. ****ing coaching and line. What a joke.

Mecca · 08-18-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Didn't Cassel have a horrible camp and preseason with NewEngland last year?

I had heard that he about got cut but who knows how true that is.

And anyway it's preseason no one should really be flipping out.

58kcfan89 · 08-18-2009, 07:51 PM

I didn't think it was possible, but my man-crush on Haley has now grown to man-love. Lost at the end of the article was this:

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"I'm just worried about this house. It's on fire, and I'm trying to keep it from burning down."

No Favre crap, no sugarcoating, he pretty much said they suck. I love it.

As far as Cassel/Croyle/Thigpen goes, is Bowe running with the 1st team? Because if he's not, that would explain why Cassel isn't doing well in scrimmages... Maybe...

Reerun_KC · 08-18-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I don't have my head buried in the sand. It's just an idiotic position for those people to take, and it tells me they aren't worth listening to. Or, to put it another way....

At Patsfans.com, earlier this year, there was actually a thread where people were arguing that the team should keep Cassel and trade Brady. That thread immediately let me know who the biggest assclowns on the board were.

The notion that Croyle's going to beat out Cassel if Cassel's healthy isn't quite that reeruned, but it's trying hard to achieve that status.

Cassel was a 7th round draft choice for a reason.. I am hoping he is worth a shit, but wont be surprised if he is gone within 3-4 years as we continue to get better.

And no I dont think Croyle is the answer either, but neither is Mark Castle...

Just Passin' By · 08-18-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Cassel was a 7th round draft choice for a reason.. I am hoping he is worth a shit, but wont be surprised if he is gone within 3-4 years as we continue to get better.

And no I dont think Croyle is the answer either, but neither is Mark Castle...

JFC, this shit again? Tom Brady was a 6th round choice for a reason. Joe Montana was a 3rd round choice for a reason. Everyone is a choice where they are taken for a reason. Ryan Leaf was a 1st round choice for a reason. Once you're drafted, it doesn't mean shit beyond your first contract numbers.

Cassel played well enough last year to get a very large contract. If he threw nothing but interceptions from today until the end of the exhibition season, he'd probably still be the opening day starter for the Chiefs.

Instead, he played the first exhibition games with receivers who aren't the starters, and put 4 of 5 passes into their hands. The receivers dropped 2 of the passes, making it look as if Cassel struggled. I'm pretty sure that Haley's got the tape and understands that.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-18-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89

I didn't think it was possible, but my man-crush on Haley has now grown to man-love.

Next comes the bromance

Mecca · 08-18-2009, 08:00 PM

Well Cassel was playing on the most offensively talented team in the league..

This is to early to just be making snap judgments but at the same time it's not given that this will work out.

BigRock · 08-18-2009, 08:02 PM

There should be a ban on all threads that spawn from an opinion of Kent Babb.

Just Passin' By · 08-18-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well Cassel was playing on the most offensively talented team in the league..

This is to early to just be making snap judgments but at the same time it's not given that this will work out.

I'm not arguing that. What Cassel does with the job once the season starts is a separate issue. I'm talking about the "Someone IS pushing Matt Cassel..." comments. The only way Croyle's going to start over Cassel is if he pulls a Tonya Harding and gets Cassel's knee whacked.

Of course, given Croyle's injury history, he'd probably break his throwing hand giving the thugs the cash for the job.

Mecca · 08-18-2009, 08:06 PM

Yea if the Chiefs benched Cassel after he got that contract everyone would call the front office a bunch of babbling monkeys.

KCUnited · 08-18-2009, 08:06 PM

There is certainly a disparaging lack of talent on this team, but it sounds like he is struggling with throws, something that has nothing to do with the lack of talent around him. That's whats troubling at this point in camp. But there's a ways to go yet.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4630478	Someone IS "pushing" Matt Cassell...and it AIN'T Tyler freaking Thigpen OK, cheap shot at Thiggy, but this is intriguing. At the very least it should serve up a huge plate of crow to ANYONE who ever bashed Croyle backers. The kid can flat PLAY. He ALWAYS had the ability. If a miracle happens and he stays healthy...who knows? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-kansas-city/ Croyle making a move in Kansas City? Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 18, 2009 8:23 PM ET Over the weekend, we almost wrote a post on Brodie Croyle appearing to pass Tyler Thigpen on Kansas City's quarterback depth chart. Ultimately, it didn't make the cut. On Tuesday, Kansas City Star writer Kent Babb wrote that he thought Croyle was playing so well, "he's threatening [Matt] Cassel's job." Now that's a post. Babb's bold declaration -- on Twitter, not in the newspaper -- defies logic. Not only did the Chiefs trade for Cassel to be the starter, they handed him a huge contract only a month ago. Seeing Cassel on the bench would be the most surprising development of a preseason in which Michael Vick became Donovan McNabb's teammate. Then again, Chiefs coach Todd Haley didn't douse water on the notion Tuesday. Asked if Cassel has been the best quarterback in camp, Haley said: "I'll hold off on answering that." We've read that Cassel has been inconsistent at times, but overall the reviews of his camp performance have been positive. Croyle played well in Kansas City's preseason opener, but it's hard to believe that would be enough to threaten Cassel. It is clear, though, that Tyler Thigpen is the forgotten man in Kansas City. Babb wonders if Thigpen will even make the team. It's also clear that Chiefs coach Todd Haley thinks his team needs some tough love after the Herm Edwards era. Asked Tuesday about Brett Favre's return, Haley turned the focus back inward. "I'm just worried about this house. It's on fire, and I'm trying to keep it from burning down." Your 2009 Kansas City Chiefs, ladies and gentlemen!
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2537050	Well Cassel was playing on the most offensively talented team in the league.. This is to early to just be making snap judgments but at the same time it's not given that this will work out.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2537050	Yea if the Chiefs benched Cassel after he got that contract everyone would call the front office a bunch of babbling monkeys.
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KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $2208244	There is certainly a disparaging lack of talent on this team, but it sounds like he is struggling with throws, something that has nothing to do with the lack of talent around him. That's whats troubling at this point in camp. But there's a ways to go yet.
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