PFF Ranks top 101 players of 2012 and No Jamaal Charles

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Just wow.

[Hootie]

Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by PGM

You couldn't be more wrong it's ridiculous. Besides even if you weren't, I'd take the guy that can get you the game breaking run anyday over some slug plodding for 2-3. Those turds are a dime a dozen.

Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by PGM

You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre . You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????

What are you talking about?

[Msmith]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.

Drew's 2012 stats: 422/670. 63% completions. 5,177 yards. 323.6 yards per game. 43 touchdowns and 19 interceptions. QB rating of 96.3.

Matt Ryan's stats: 422/615. 68.6% completions. 4,719 yards. 294.9 yards per game. 32 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. QB rating of 99.1.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

5K and 43 TD's is so so?? Heh

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Drew Brees had a so so year to say the least. I'll give them that.

Hahahahahahaha
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Might there exist a reality wherein PFF is a useful research tool but also neither the Bible nor a rag used to wipe up dysentery explosions?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Might there exist a reality wherein PFF is a useful research tool but also neither the Bible nor a rag used to wipe up dysentery explosions?

It's Chiefsplanet dude its either or depending on which argument you want to make.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Wrong about what?

I'm not saying I want a dime a dozen plodder. Are you saying you don't want better first down production or more first downs?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by PGM

I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.

OK. I don't know what you were talking about either.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by PGM

You don't make any sense. If you take way JC's best 20 carries, you have to do that to EVERY RB.

Let's say a guy averages 4YPC and without his long runs goes down to 3.5 because he's consistently mediocre . You'd take that over JC's 6 YPC dropping to 3.7???????

I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed?

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by PGM

I have no idea what you are talking about. Charles was outstanding last year even without the game breaking runs.

OK. I don't know what you were talking about either. Jamaal Charles is a fantastic RB, boom or bust concern not withstanding.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by unlurking

I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed?

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)

Spoiler!

Jamaal rapes them

[-King-]

Originally Posted by unlurking

I'd love to see that, when can I expect your work to be completed?

(Too lazy/busy to do it myself)

I did it for Adrian Peterson. His averaged dropped to 3.8. I might do it for Foster too cause I think him, AP and Charles are the best backs in the league.

But yeah doing it for AP proved that if you take the top ~20 carries from any back their YPC is going to drop dramatically.
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[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

So, 33.6 ypc over those 19 carries. That tells me that he's providing slightly more than one game-changing play per game. That's what elite players do.

Very good argument here.