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Old 08-09-2016, 02:00 PM  
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ESPN insider article.http://insider.espn.com/nfl/insider/...roethlisberger

Tier 1:
T-1 Brady
T-1 Rodgers
3. Roethlisberger

Tier 2:
4. Newton
5. Brees
6. Wilson
7. Luck
8. Rivers
9. Eli
10. Palmer
11. Romo
12. Flacco
13. Ryan
14. Stafford
15. Dalton

Tier 3:
16. Carr
17. Winston
18. A Smith
19. Mariota
20. Cousins
21. Cutler
22. Bortles
23. Bridgewater
24. Tannehill
25. Fitzpatrick
26. Taylor
27. Osweiler
28. Bradford

Tier 4:
29. Kaepernick
30. Gabbert
31. Sanchez
32. Griffin
33. Keenum
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:43 AM   #61
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You forgot Sanchez, tier 1... KNHOMO
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:56 AM   #62
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Sanchez should be lower...
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:03 AM   #63
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I think I'd rank them something like this... Rivers is more statwhore than put the team on his back (referring to Buck's rant). The guys in the top two tiers have all produced big, with the exception of Rivers. I just can't put the Tier 3 guys up there with the others just yet.



Tier 1:

Brady

Rodgers

Roethlisberger



Tier 2:

Brees

Wilson

Rivers

Eli

Flacco



Tier 3:

Palmer

Romo

Ryan

Stafford

Dalton

Luck

Newton

A Smith

Cutler


You would have Newton in tier 3 right above Alex Smith? Newton was just in the super bowl with philly brown and Tedd Ginn as his receivers. Oh, he might of been MVP of the league or something like that.


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Old 08-10-2016, 06:13 AM   #64
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You would have Newton in tier 3 right above Alex Smith? Newton was just in the super bowl with philly brown and Tedd Ginn as his receivers. Oh, he might of been MVP of the league or something like that.


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I didn't rank them per tier. I'm not sure that a single season or two of great play makes someone T1 or T2. Newton will get there quick though if he keeps it up.
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Old 08-10-2016, 06:58 AM   #65
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Can we please stop this non sense? Very few qbs had the poor ridiculous situation that Alex Smith was thrown into. Only players like David Carr, and Tim Couch can really relate. Teddy was drafted into a perfect situation. As was Goff. It's a miracle that Alex Smith survived long enough to become anything at all.


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I've said this before, and will likely say it again.

That Texan O-Line was not good, but David Carr was responsible for more of the sacks that he took than his line was.

That guy had a stiffer neck than William Bartee.

He had absolutely no ability to make progressions or reads.

His final season in Houston he was sacked nearly 50 times.
The following season, the Texans gave up fewer than 25 sacks, and that was with Jordan Black as their only "upgrade".
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:01 AM   #66
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Jordan Black was an upgrade. That says a lot. Man was he awful. He was an addition by subtraction when he left KC.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:08 AM   #67
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Old 08-10-2016, 08:42 AM   #68
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I forgot about Brees. At this point I'd probably put him at 9 and move everyone else down.
Brees should be tier 1
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Old 08-10-2016, 08:45 AM   #69
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Brees should be tier 1

I feel like, in order to be tier 1, you can't have had a losing season (at least recently). True tier 1 QBs bring their teams to the playoffs year in and year out without fail.
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I feel like, in order to be tier 1, you can't have had a losing season (at least recently). True tier 1 QBs bring their teams to the playoffs year in and year out without fail.
Wrong.
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LOL my opinion is wrong.

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I feel like, in order to be tier 1, you can't have had a losing season (at least recently). True tier 1 QBs bring their teams to the playoffs year in and year out without fail.
I don't know, I feel like Brees always elevates the wrs and other skill guys around him.

His defense has been historically bad for a while though
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:10 AM   #73
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If guys like Eli and Stafford deserve a tier 2 designation, so does Alex Smith

It just easy to overlook him because he lacks the sexy arm, but Manning doesnt exactly possess a cannon either

And in spite of his arm, Stafford has yet to win a playoff game
It took 5 years for folks to finally give up on the fantasy of Jay Cutler. Stafford's cannon and Eli's rings give them both even more latitude.

But I agree; I'd take Smith over Stafford and Eli in a heartbeat. I'd take him ahead of Flacco as well.
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Your comment would count for more if you didn't lead with Alexi.

As it is, it's nothing other than a claynus post.

I apologize I typed that on my phone it autocorrect to that.

No joke, it was an automated mistake. It's a bitch to proofread on this screen
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Alexi is ranked exactly as he should which is average nothing less and nothing more.
Yeah I agree entirely. Not going to place him higher just because he's ours.
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