Chiefs Has our pass rush been adequately addressed? - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 05-15-2009, 01:43 PM

At this juncture it looks like Hali, Vrabel, Beisel and lord knows who else (McBride? lol) are going to be our outside pass rushers. Is that enough?

Personally I'm still holding out hope for Peppers, because I honestly don't see how that's enough. If we're gonna trade for and sign geriatrics at linebacker, might as well get a 29-year old stud DE while we're at it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

This. The Chiefs have been trying to fix that problem for most of a decade now.

Almost?

I'd say since 1998. Chester McGlockton trade ring a bell?

Mr. Krab · 05-15-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by THISmaqe

Indirectly, addressing the line and addressing the pass rush are the same. 3-4 OLB can't rush the passer, and 3-4 ILB's can't make tackles, if the guys in front of them can't keep offensive linemen off of them.

There just wasn't much out there in the pass rush department this past draft. So it makes sense to address the guys in front of them.

Yea, and drafting Donald Washington this year might improve our secondary which will help the pass rush too. Having a better offense will be pressure on the other team which could help our pass rush too.

Yes, any improvement of our team helps synergystically. But as far as direct effect to the pass rush, we didn't do much at all besides change to scheme that might help us manufacture sacks.

**DaneMcCloud** · 05-15-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Yea, and drafting Donald Washington this year might improve our secondary which will help the pass rush too. Having a better offense will be pressure on the other team which could help our pass rush too.

You're of the opinion that the offense will be better in '09?

Whoa.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-15-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Nope, best pass rush in the league. IT'S SCOTT PIOLI FOR **** SAKE.

RAISE THE ROOF BROTHER!!!!!

Hammock Parties · 05-15-2009, 03:47 PM

That's exactly what Jesus had in mind.

**notorious** · 05-15-2009, 03:51 PM

I think that using a scheme that attacks instead of sits back and reacts is going to improve this defense.

Then again, we couldn't get much worse on D, so.......

Sure-Oz · 05-15-2009, 04:03 PM

Im sure brandon flowers will lead the team with 4 sacks

**Rain Man** · 05-15-2009, 04:06 PM

It appears that we're trading:

Hali Tyler Dorsey Babin/McBride Johnson P. Thomas Williams

in our front seven for

Jackson Tyler Dorsey McBride/Hali Johnson Z. Thomas Vrabel

or something like that.

I'm not sure I see a huge improvement at this point unless the scheme and game-planning make better use of them. That's quite possible. However, I'm not overly confident right now in having Krumrie coaching a bevy of high-round picks. I'm wondering if part of the new scheme involves having Krumrie coach a run-stuffing line and then having the linebackers provide the rush.

I don't remember. Who's our linebackers coach, and what's his history?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-15-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

That's exactly what Jesus had in mind.

Pioli Bless You my child.

LaChapelle · 05-15-2009, 04:36 PM

I'm more concerned with preventing sacks. Defenses can shake it off and play again. QB's with Brodie Croyle type injuries are another matter.

MoreLemonPledge · 05-15-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I don't remember. Who's our linebackers coach, and what's his history?

Gary Gibbs, most recently the Saints DC.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/gary_gibbs/

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notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2925884	I think that using a scheme that attacks instead of sits back and reacts is going to improve this defense. Then again, we couldn't get much worse on D, so.......
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05-15-2009, 04:06 PM	#38
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3318491 VARSITY	It appears that we're trading: Hali Tyler Dorsey Babin/McBride Johnson P. Thomas Williams in our front seven for Jackson Tyler Dorsey McBride/Hali Johnson Z. Thomas Vrabel or something like that. I'm not sure I see a huge improvement at this point unless the scheme and game-planning make better use of them. That's quite possible. However, I'm not overly confident right now in having Krumrie coaching a bevy of high-round picks. I'm wondering if part of the new scheme involves having Krumrie coach a run-stuffing line and then having the linebackers provide the rush. I don't remember. Who's our linebackers coach, and what's his history? __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm more concerned with preventing sacks. Defenses can shake it off and play again. QB's with Brodie Croyle type injuries are another matter.
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