Weight restrictions being purposed in the NFL?

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2005, 10:16 AM

Warning I am about to rant. If you don't like ranting click out of here immediatly.

Is it saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafe?

Local sports radio reporting that the NFL will reconsider weight restrictions in response the recent death of Thomas Herrion and last years death of Korey Stringer. To me this is nothing short of absurd. If they impliment this I am not even sure I will want to watch the game anymore. I am sure it's the insurance companies who at best would like to see these restrictions and at the very least may want to discontinue coverage for linemen in the NFL or at least raise their premiums significantly. Apparently they have a bunch of doctors using the BMI body mass index to say that NFL lineman are massively obese. They are saying Herrion should be 220 pounds to be in shape.

Apparently they were already pushing for these type of restrictions before the Herrion incident. I punched BMI and NFL in a search engine and found that to be true.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...rs-obese_x.htm

The NFL was scoffing at it but I guess now they will reconsider. I do know that using the BMI is completely outrageous and cannot be used on NFL linemen. I swear attorneys, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies run this world.

In other disgusting news our dog legislation passed on through to the next level. I had a buddy call yesterday because he is concerned about his rottie. His brother lives in Germany where he says 77 breeds are banned and they want to adopt these policies for all countries in the entire European Union. I punched that in a search engine and came up with this. http://www.saveourbreeds.org.uk/germancheek.htm
Make not mistake the insurance companies have waged a war on dogs globally and legislation is coming to a city near you soon.

Jacky Spierer who is the bitch that came out with the dog legislation here locally is going to propose a bill to restrict any form of supplimentation other than basic vitamins for all students participating in athletics in the state. This comes on the heels of her demanding Ahnold give up his job as editor of M&F because there are dangerous suppliments for sale in the magazine. I said it before and make no mistake about it this was never about steroids it was about a bizzillion dollar money grab going after all suppliments in this country like the major pharmaceutical companies tried to do back in 92 they are just coming in the back door with it this time. Steroids are to all suppliments what pit bulls are to dogs, the object to villify in order to go after everything.

One last note the lawsuit that I told Baby Lee about way back finally came to fruition for the people suing pops business. You might have remembered a lady fell down some stairs and my dad had to help her and call an ambulance while her daughter did nothing but screem about how she was going to sue him. No negligence was found regarding the stairs. They had a handrail and good footing. They still ruled we have to give her 30k after spending a bunch on attorneys. Why? Because they legal right to steal that's why.

Rant finished

**Saulbadguy** · 08-24-2005, 10:17 AM

Heh. 4 different rants. A BIG_DADDY classic.

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Heh. 4 different rants. A BIG_DADDY classic.

Lawyers, Pharmaceutical companies and Insurance companies rule the world. Kill them all.

go bo · 08-24-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Lawyers, Pharmaceutical companies and Insurance companies rule the world. Kill them all.

hey now...

lawyers are like dogs...

there's your pit bull, your rottie, and your basic shark...

now, they're mostly sharks, but there's a few decent people here and there...

like amno, turno, patto, and several other posters that are lawyers, they're still pretty good guys...

it's really just a few ****ed up ones (well, maybe more than a few) that make them all look bad...

and i agree with you, bd, using the bmi on nfl players is absurd...

bmi is calculated based on weight and height and assumes a "normal" level of muscular development...

nfl players have huge amounts of muscle on their bodies...

and most have a very low percentage of body fat (obesity is body fact, right?)...

if you factor in those things, the actual bmi for nfl players is most likely perfectly normal...

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by go bo

hey now...

lawyers are like dogs...

there's your pit bull, your rottie, and your basic shark...

now, they're mostly sharks, but there's a few decent people here and there...

like amno, turno, patto, and several other posters that are lawyers, they're still pretty good guys...

it's really just a few ****ed up ones (well, maybe more than a few) that make them all look bad...

I know I am just venting because lawyers just stole close to 50k from us if you consider legal expenses too.

MOhillbilly · 08-24-2005, 11:34 AM

Could have been alot of things(Sanfranplayer),nice job of these "chicken littles" to tell us(and everyone else) how we should live & die.

Let the COACH AND TRAINERS AND PLAYERS regulate there own body types for shitsake!
Always someone in someone elses buisness.

I bet alot of these fools were the little MFers who would snitch on you just to get praise from the teacher.

I say we all wait for them in the bathroom.

go bo · 08-24-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I know I am just venting because lawyers just stole close to 50k from us if you consider legal expenses too.

did they get a judgment against you, or was that a settlement?

based on what you said, i don't quite understand why your dad would be liable (stairs in good shape and handrail in place) for the clumsy oaf...

but whatever the reason, that really sucks that you had to pay anything at all, and the lawyers fees suck too...

**Rain Man** · 08-24-2005, 10:19 AM

I wonder if the ACLU will sue for weight discrimination.

Chiefnj · 08-24-2005, 10:20 AM

I guess a high alkaline diet does not relieve stress.

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I guess a high alkaline diet does not relieve stress.

Apparently not.

Soupnazi · 08-24-2005, 10:25 AM

This thing is already reminding me of the incident at MU. Blaming his weight before they have the slightest idea of what killed him.

The media and others were ready to go after the University, the coaches, the athletic trainers, etc., claiming they were negligent in working him too hard or not getting him to the hospital fast enough. Lo and behold, the kid had viral meningitis. He was dead as soon as he hit the ground.

jidar1 · 08-24-2005, 10:32 AM

People need to stop trying to place blame for everything and stop trying to prevent everything.

Not everything needs regulated, sometimes you just gotta realize that shit happens and there is nothing to be done about it.

In this case we have a sport where athletes push themselves to the limits of their bodies, once in a great while the competition results in a fatality. That sounds bad, but in truth everything kills people sometimes. Shit is going to happen.

What this society needs is to stop being so god damned self-righteous and holier-than-thou. Sometimes it's noones fault, leave it alone, let things be. Shit happens.

BIG_DADDY · 08-24-2005, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar1

People need to stop trying to place blame for everything and stop trying to prevent everything.

Not everything needs regulated, sometimes you just gotta realize that shit happens and there is nothing to be done about it.

In this case we have a sport where athletes push themselves to the limits of their bodies, once in a great while the competition results in a fatality. That sounds bad, but in truth everything kills people sometimes. Shit is going to happen.

What this society needs is to stop being so god damned self-righteous and holier-than-thou. Sometimes it's noones fault, leave it alone, let things be. Shit happens.

But is it saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafe?

Got this out of the chronical

"Yes, it could be totally unrelated to his weight, but the fact remains that he was 6-3 and he weighed 310 pounds and probably should have been 210 pounds," said Dr. Joyce Harp, a University of North Carolina endocrinologist who recently did a study calculating the BMIs of all NFL players and found that almost all players qualified as overweight or obese.

**Rain Man** · 08-24-2005, 10:59 AM

I bet Joyce Harp has never met a football player. That "study" was stupid.

WisChief · 08-24-2005, 11:12 AM

Joyce Harp, MD
Link to Research Interests

Contact Information:
jharp@email.unc.edu
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
School of Public Health
2202 McGavran-Greenberg Hall
CB# 7400
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7400
phone: 919-966-5445
fax: 919-966-7216

Summary of Research Interests
Associate Professor, Department of Nutrition and Medicine. (MD, Tulane Medical School, 1984) Dr. Harp's research interests focus on molecular signals that regulate adipocyte formation and on identification of new pharmaceutical approaches for the treatment of obesity in humans. She directs the clinical weight management program at UNC Hospitals. She teaches nutrition to the medical students. Dr. Harp is a member of the American Diabetes Association, American Society of Nutritional Sciences, American Medical Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the North American Association for the Study of Obesity.

08-24-2005, 10:16 AM	Topic Starter
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5018410	Weight restrictions being purposed in the NFL? Warning I am about to rant. If you don't like ranting click out of here immediatly. Is it saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafe? Local sports radio reporting that the NFL will reconsider weight restrictions in response the recent death of Thomas Herrion and last years death of Korey Stringer. To me this is nothing short of absurd. If they impliment this I am not even sure I will want to watch the game anymore. I am sure it's the insurance companies who at best would like to see these restrictions and at the very least may want to discontinue coverage for linemen in the NFL or at least raise their premiums significantly. Apparently they have a bunch of doctors using the BMI body mass index to say that NFL lineman are massively obese. They are saying Herrion should be 220 pounds to be in shape. Apparently they were already pushing for these type of restrictions before the Herrion incident. I punched BMI and NFL in a search engine and found that to be true. http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...rs-obese_x.htm The NFL was scoffing at it but I guess now they will reconsider. I do know that using the BMI is completely outrageous and cannot be used on NFL linemen. I swear attorneys, insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies run this world. In other disgusting news our dog legislation passed on through to the next level. I had a buddy call yesterday because he is concerned about his rottie. His brother lives in Germany where he says 77 breeds are banned and they want to adopt these policies for all countries in the entire European Union. I punched that in a search engine and came up with this. http://www.saveourbreeds.org.uk/germancheek.htm Make not mistake the insurance companies have waged a war on dogs globally and legislation is coming to a city near you soon. Jacky Spierer who is the bitch that came out with the dog legislation here locally is going to propose a bill to restrict any form of supplimentation other than basic vitamins for all students participating in athletics in the state. This comes on the heels of her demanding Ahnold give up his job as editor of M&F because there are dangerous suppliments for sale in the magazine. I said it before and make no mistake about it this was never about steroids it was about a bizzillion dollar money grab going after all suppliments in this country like the major pharmaceutical companies tried to do back in 92 they are just coming in the back door with it this time. Steroids are to all suppliments what pit bulls are to dogs, the object to villify in order to go after everything. One last note the lawsuit that I told Baby Lee about way back finally came to fruition for the people suing pops business. You might have remembered a lady fell down some stairs and my dad had to help her and call an ambulance while her daughter did nothing but screem about how she was going to sue him. No negligence was found regarding the stairs. They had a handrail and good footing. They still ruled we have to give her 30k after spending a bunch on attorneys. Why? Because they legal right to steal that's why. Rant finished
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08-24-2005, 10:17 AM	#2
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2496966	Heh. 4 different rants. A BIG_DADDY classic.
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08-24-2005, 11:34 AM	#6
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	Could have been alot of things(Sanfranplayer),nice job of these "chicken littles" to tell us(and everyone else) how we should live & die. Let the COACH AND TRAINERS AND PLAYERS regulate there own body types for shitsake! Always someone in someone elses buisness. I bet alot of these fools were the little MFers who would snitch on you just to get praise from the teacher. I say we all wait for them in the bathroom. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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08-24-2005, 10:19 AM	#8
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3178491 VARSITY	I wonder if the ACLU will sue for weight discrimination. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-24-2005, 10:20 AM	#9
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	I guess a high alkaline diet does not relieve stress. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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08-24-2005, 10:25 AM	#11
Soupnazi Totally yummy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The kitchen @ River Falls Casino cash: $10006400	This thing is already reminding me of the incident at MU. Blaming his weight before they have the slightest idea of what killed him. The media and others were ready to go after the University, the coaches, the athletic trainers, etc., claiming they were negligent in working him too hard or not getting him to the hospital fast enough. Lo and behold, the kid had viral meningitis. He was dead as soon as he hit the ground.
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08-24-2005, 10:32 AM	#12
jidar1 Starter Join Date: May 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	People need to stop trying to place blame for everything and stop trying to prevent everything. Not everything needs regulated, sometimes you just gotta realize that shit happens and there is nothing to be done about it. In this case we have a sport where athletes push themselves to the limits of their bodies, once in a great while the competition results in a fatality. That sounds bad, but in truth everything kills people sometimes. Shit is going to happen. What this society needs is to stop being so god damned self-righteous and holier-than-thou. Sometimes it's noones fault, leave it alone, let things be. Shit happens.
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08-24-2005, 10:59 AM	#14
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3178491 VARSITY	I bet Joyce Harp has never met a football player. That "study" was stupid. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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08-24-2005, 11:12 AM	#15
WisChief GO 'NOLES! Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $10005400	Joyce Harp, MD Link to Research Interests Contact Information: jharp@email.unc.edu University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Public Health 2202 McGavran-Greenberg Hall CB# 7400 Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7400 phone: 919-966-5445 fax: 919-966-7216 Summary of Research Interests Associate Professor, Department of Nutrition and Medicine. (MD, Tulane Medical School, 1984) Dr. Harp's research interests focus on molecular signals that regulate adipocyte formation and on identification of new pharmaceutical approaches for the treatment of obesity in humans. She directs the clinical weight management program at UNC Hospitals. She teaches nutrition to the medical students. Dr. Harp is a member of the American Diabetes Association, American Society of Nutritional Sciences, American Medical Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the North American Association for the Study of Obesity.
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