Teicher: Jared Allen quickly exceeding KC's expectations

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

You watch over the next offseason, and see what the coaches say around spring training...........They'll have him on a program to do exactly that. I'll give you my avatar for a month if I'm wrong.

I know they will. DV and the coaching staff is always trying to "correct" their players' weight. I still think they are wrong to do so. JMO, o'course. I'll take the sacks playing sparingly. He may never be very good against the run, or he may be damn good already. One thing we know, at 270 he can get after the QB.

As for your avatar, I think you are just trying to get your hands on mine..

[Iowanian]

In a way that is a very relevant picture.

If people are going to compare the Rookie to Neil Smith.......he DOES have some big pants to fill.

[kc rush]

Originally Posted by tk13

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10041488.htm

Allen is taking a good amount of grief from linemates like Eric Hicks and Lional Dalton about his sack lead. He's certain to hear more as the season wears on.

“They'll probably make me take them out to dinner,” Allen said. “But that's OK. That would definitely be worth it.”


JIM BARCUS/The Kansas City Star
In his first pro season, Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen (above) already is putting the squeeze on opposing quarterbacks. Allen leads NFL rookies with four sacks.

This bugs me. Any D-Lineman who has fewer sacks than a part time rookie player should be getting the hard time. They should be taking him out for dinner.

[KC Jones]

With Allen and Siavii I think we've gone a long ways towards adding the future foundation of our defense. Allen needs to get beefier and play more downs, Siavii needs a lot of work on technique and using leverage. In a couple of years both of these guys could become regular pro bowlers.

[TEX]

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But Allen is the unusual Chiefs draft pick who is exceeding expectations.

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For some reason, this struck me as being pretty funny....

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by tk13

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10041488.htm

Chiefs rookie Jared Allen wore a black eye this week courtesy of a stray fist he took in last week's victory over Atlanta. Allen couldn't have been prouder.

“It makes me feel,” he said, beaming, “like a football player.”

I bet Gunther is in love!

[KC Jones]

Originally Posted by el borracho

I bet Gunther is in love!

I bet he sent Allen a sleeveless muscle shirt to wear.

[bricks]

Jared Allen is a beast! 10-15 sacks this year.

[R&GHomer]

Originally Posted by el borracho

I bet Gunther is in love!

He does have that thing for facial hair.

[Mr. Laz]

apparently Adam read my thread

[jspchief]

Does anyone have his combine numbers? I remember someone on another board saying that his bench press numbers were absolutely pathetic. It gave me the impression that he would be a project or end up as a tweener that relied solely on speed (which won't get you much in the NFL). Based on what I had read, I had no reason to expect anything from him this year or anytime soon. Suprise, suprise.

The thing I love most about this guy is his motor. he goes non-stop and he seems to be involved in the play every time he's on the field. I can remember several times in the Atlanta game where Dunn just slipped out of his grasp, avoiding a spectacular play deep in the backfield. Even when he isn't making the tackle his penetration seems to disrupt plays. I also love that when he rushes, he rushes the ball, not the QB. I get tired of watching our other DEs trying to get to the QB while the RB is already 5 yards downfield. It's like they have no clue where tha ball is...Allen is just the opposite. As soon as the hand-off takes place he readjusts to pursue the runner. He has a nose for the ball.

[Chiefnj]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Does anyone have his combine numbers? I remember someone on another board saying that his bench press numbers were absolutely pathetic. It gave me the impression that he would be a project or end up as a tweener that relied solely on speed (which won't get you much in the NFL). Based on what I had read, I had no reason to expect anything from him this year

Jared Allen Scouting Report from cbssportsline

Career Notes

The most dominating pass rusher in the NCAA Division 1-AA ranks, Jared was recognized as the division's premier defensive player by becoming the first Big Sky Conference player to ever win the Buck Buchanan Award in 2003 ... The most decorated player in school history had a stellar career that saw him wreak havoc in the opposing backfield ever since he arrived on campus ... Blessed with superb athletic skills, he adds to his impressive resume with his abilities as a quality long snapper ... The son of former Minnesota Viking, Ron Allen, Jared started 33 of 41 games during his career ... The four-time All-Big Sky Conference selection finished his career with 250 tackles (112 solos), 38.5 sacks for minus 269 yards, 73 stops for losses of 338 yards, seven fumble recoveries for 57 yards in returns, including a touchdown, 13 forced fumbles, three interceptions for 38 yards in returns with a score, 26 pass deflections, a blocked kick and a 3-yard touchdown catch ... Only Josh Hayes (42, 1994-96) had more sacks in ISU history ... His 13 fumbles caused set another school career-record.
Analysis

Positives: Has a tall, rangy, athletic build with room for additional growth ... Flashes a sudden burst as a pass rusher and has the quickness to get up field and turn the offensive tackle ... Fights pressure well and will usually always find the ball ... Smart, instinctive player who won't be fooled by misdirection or play action ... Gains advantage over the slower blockers coming off the edge ... Uses his hands effectively to separate and control ... Very emotional and vocal leader who plays from snap to whistle ... Shows good hand quickness with a snap-toe average of 0.72-0.80 seconds on long snapping chores ... Has the lateral agility to string plays wide and shows the foot quickness to mirror tight ends and backs covering the pass in the short area ... Possesses above average balance and body control in his pursuit chase.

Negatives: Has a softer-than-ideal body and needs to add strength and muscle mass to his frame ... Productive pass rusher, but the level of competition was not good ... Marginal run defender who gets sealed by the tight end, reached by the offensive tackle and does not generate power when redirecting in-line ... Has poor strength at the point of attack, generally getting stuffed when playing too tall in his stance ... Usually neutralized vs. double teams and can be sealed inside by the smaller slot receiver ... Gains an edge in his pass rush, but an offensive tackle with good hand placement can yank him to the ground (gets washed out and does not use his hands with force to shed) ... Grab-and-drag down type of tackler with poor wrap-up technique ... Needs to use his hands better to prevent blockers from cutting him at his feet ... Lacks dedication to the weight room and to a good nutrition program during the off-season ... Had several off-field incidents that need further evaluation.

Injury Report



Campus Agility Tests

4.88 in the 40-yard dash ... Bench presses 225 pounds 13 times ... 1.72 10-yard dash ... 4.36 20-yard shuttle ... 33-inch vertical jump ... 32-inch arm length ... 9 3/8-inch hands ... Right-handed ... 22/30 Wonderlic score.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Jared Allen Scouting Report from cbssportsline



4.88 in the 40-yard dash ... Bench presses 225 pounds 13 times ... 1.72 10-yard dash ... 4.36 20-yard shuttle ... 33-inch vertical jump ... 32-inch arm length ... 9 3/8-inch hands ... Right-handed ... 22/30 Wonderlic score.

Thanks. That's what I was talking about. 13 times? When I saw that I was sure that we had blown the pick. I Have buddies that can top that, and it's an embarrassment for NFL combine numbers. He must have had something wrong with him that day.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Thanks. That's what I was talking about. 13 times? When I saw that I was sure that we had blown the pick. I Have buddies that can top that, and it's an embarrassment for NFL combine numbers. He must have had something wrong with him that day.

Or he relies on leverage and solid technique more than brute strength. Wouldn't be surprisd if he had wrestling experience...

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Or he relies on leverage and solid technique more than brute strength. Wouldn't be surprisd if he had wrestling experience...

Brute strength? He's not even in the same league as brute strength. All I was saying is that is a very low number for a NFL caliber DE. Most RBs probably top that.