Gordon Ramsay decides he can't help a restaurant

[DJ's left nut]

The thing is, I generally sympathize with people on Kitchen Nightmares because Ramsey kinda acts like he forgets how unbelievably hard running a restaurant is.

They fail...a lot. And the people that run them are often putting every thing they have into them, both their time and money. It's an all-consuming challenge that these people often undertake.

And then Ramsey shows up, calls them cocks and acts like it's just the easiest thing in the world and they're silly assholes for getting it wrong. Then he acts stunned when people get upset about it, as though any of us would be totally okay with having someone blast what we've given our lives to try to create.

But this ****ing lunatic...well she's beyond sympathy. This woman and her husband are just in another world. I've rarely seen anyone so far removed from reality. It's pretty incredible.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The thing is, I generally sympathize with people on Kitchen Nightmares because Ramsey kinda acts like he forgets how unbelievably hard running a restaurant is.

They fail...a lot. And the people that run them are often putting every thing they have into them, both their time and money. It's an all-consuming challenge that these people often undertake.

And then Ramsey shows up, calls them cocks and acts like it's just the easiest thing in the world and they're silly assholes for getting it wrong. Then he acts stunned when people get upset about it, as though any of us would be totally okay with having someone blast what we've given our lives to try to create.

But this ****ing lunatic...well she's beyond sympathy. This woman and her husband are just in another world. I've rarely seen anyone so far removed from reality. It's pretty incredible.

I imagine that producers have them add in lots of fake drama.

For example, Restaurant Stakeout. Similar thing, but it's all completely bullshit and people are acting.

Same thing with Bar Rescue and pretty much all of those shows.

And anyways, having an expert come in for a week and redecorate, rename the place, clean the place up, install a new menu is definitely a good start to starting over. But it's still going to be the same people running it. They are still going to make the same mistakes. He isn't really teaching them anything about how to run a restaurant for long term success.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The thing is, I generally sympathize with people on Kitchen Nightmares because Ramsey kinda acts like he forgets how unbelievably hard running a restaurant is.

They fail...a lot. And the people that run them are often putting every thing they have into them, both their time and money. It's an all-consuming challenge that these people often undertake.

And then Ramsey shows up, calls them cocks and acts like it's just the easiest thing in the world and they're silly assholes for getting it wrong. Then he acts stunned when people get upset about it, as though any of us would be totally okay with having someone blast what we've given our lives to try to create.

But this ****ing lunatic...well she's beyond sympathy. This woman and her husband are just in another world. I've rarely seen anyone so far removed from reality. It's pretty incredible.

I can see it both ways.

The restaurants are reaching out for help. They need the exposure, guidance and help. It's really not rocket science though when the business is empty and they cut corners with the food and staff, the profits are going to be in the tank.

What gets me is when the owners of the drowning business legitimately think the food isn't the problem. Of course it is.

If I was in that position, I would hope it was because the food sucked and I needed some help and guidance. If the food doesn't suck, and the staff is competent, there's a much bigger issue if there's no business.

[mcan]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I can see it both ways.

The restaurants are reaching out for help. They need the exposure, guidance and help. It's really not rocket science though when the business is empty and they cut corners with the food and staff, the profits are going to be in the tank.

What gets me is when the owners of the drowning business legitimately think the food isn't the problem. Of course it is.

If I was in that position, I would hope it was because the food sucked and I needed some help and guidance. If the food doesn't suck, and the staff is competent, there's a much bigger issue if there's no business.

Well, the devil is in the details. Ramsey is an asshole and an elitist prick. But... When the owner is keeping tip money... That's insane. Just... Insane. Making people wash his car? Insane... Found himself a little trophy wife (some prize), and let her run her dream business. But she's rotten too. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the food was actually okay, but the atmosphere was just poison.

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I can see it both ways.

The restaurants are reaching out for help. They need the exposure, guidance and help. It's really not rocket science though when the business is empty and they cut corners with the food and staff, the profits are going to be in the tank.

What gets me is when the owners of the drowning business legitimately think the food isn't the problem. Of course it is.

If I was in that position, I would hope it was because the food sucked and I needed some help and guidance. If the food doesn't suck, and the staff is competent, there's a much bigger issue if there's no business.

If you watch the beginning of the show, the entire show, she is obviously trying to gain vindication from Ramsey, not advice, as she's sure the failing business is the result of "haters" on the blogs and such. She thought he was going to love her stuff...which made it all the funnier.

They are walking distance from my house...drove by yesterday on my way to an appointment...couldn't see if there was much activity inside, but there were a number of people gawking in through the windows.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by fan4ever

If you watch the beginning of the show, the entire show, she is obviously trying to gain vindication from Ramsey, not advice, as she's sure the failing business is the result of "haters" on the blogs and such. She thought he was going to love her stuff...which made it all the funnier.

They are walking distance from my house...drove by yesterday on my way to an appointment...couldn't see if there was much activity inside, but there were a number of people gawking in through the windows.

Write Ramsey Rules on a brick and throw it through their window- Thanks-lol

[Namor40]

Originally Posted by fan4ever

If you watch the beginning of the show, the entire show, she is obviously trying to gain vindication from Ramsey, not advice, as she's sure the failing business is the result of "haters" on the blogs and such. She thought he was going to love her stuff...which made it all the funnier.

They are walking distance from my house...drove by yesterday on my way to an appointment...couldn't see if there was much activity inside, but there were a number of people gawking in through the windows.

Small world...I live just northeast of there. Hit up Butterfield's quite a bit more often than I should.

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by Namor40

Small world...I live just northeast of there. Hit up Butterfield's quite a bit more often than I should.

So you know the Blue Burrito too? I saw Eric Clapton walk into that place about 7 years ago while I was eating there...I was like "WTF?" Turns out he was likely in town to see Billy Preston before he passed away. That little strip mall seems to be interesting from time to time.

[Namor40]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The thing is, I generally sympathize with people on Kitchen Nightmares because Ramsey kinda acts like he forgets how unbelievably hard running a restaurant is.

They fail...a lot. And the people that run them are often putting every thing they have into them, both their time and money. It's an all-consuming challenge that these people often undertake.

And then Ramsey shows up, calls them cocks and acts like it's just the easiest thing in the world and they're silly assholes for getting it wrong. Then he acts stunned when people get upset about it, as though any of us would be totally okay with having someone blast what we've given our lives to try to create.

But this ****ing lunatic...well she's beyond sympathy. This woman and her husband are just in another world. I've rarely seen anyone so far removed from reality. It's pretty incredible.

Even after he's helped them, they go under.


Literally every single restaurant from Seasons 1 and 2 of Kitchen Nightmares is now out of business.


The interesting thing is that from the British version, most of the restaurants...some of them under new ownership, still remain open.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Namor40

Even after he's helped them, they go under.


Literally every single restaurant from Seasons 1 and 2 of Kitchen Nightmares is now out of business.


The interesting thing is that from the British version, most of the restaurants...some of them under new ownership, still remain open.

And you could probably link these results to the different attitudes Ramsay portrays between the British and American version.

Yes, Ramsay seems more calm and collected in the British version. However, so our the restaurant owners. I don't think I've ever seen a British version where the owners of the restaurant are as completely helpless as these 2.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by jd1020

And you could probably link these results to the different attitudes Ramsay portrays between the British and American version.

Yes, Ramsay seems more calm and collected in the British version. However, so our the restaurant owners. I don't think I've ever seen a British version where the owners of the restaurant are as completely helpless as these 2.

I've seen a couple, and he busts their asses the same way he does here in America. He's not going to take any bullshit from anyone, and he's earned the right to be "elitist" if that's what you want to call it. He's worked very hard to be in the elite class of chefs in the world.

[Namor40]

Originally Posted by jd1020

And you could probably link these results to the different attitudes Ramsay portrays between the British and American version.

Yes, Ramsay seems more calm and collected in the British version. However, so our the restaurant owners. I don't think I've ever seen a British version where the owners of the restaurant are as completely helpless as these 2.

I can think of one, the inn where the staff essentially told the owners what to do, hung out at the restaurant bar in their off hours and things were all kinds of messed up......unsurprisingly the owner ended up selling shortly after.


One of my favorites was the lady who had the soul food restaurant, one of the very few times I've seen Ramsay try the food and go 'WOW."