Maybe GM Moore's first bad decision?

Marco Polo · 08-17-2006, 08:03 AM

Royals' Grudzielanek gets extension for 2007

Mark Grudzielanek's contract extension with the Royals is worth $4 million and includes a player option for the 2008 season at $4 million to $4.5 million, depending on plate appearances next year.
It sounded like a bad idea before we knew about the player option. Now it's quite a bit worse. There wasn't a team in baseball willing to give Grudzielanek $8 million over two years last winter. His big game tonight upped his OPS to 734, but that's still down from 779 in 2004 and 741 last year. He's played in 140 games once this decade, and since he's 36, he's only likely to get more fragile. There just isn't any upside at all here. He might be a $4 million player right now, but there's nowhere for him to go but down.

I like him for this year and next, but 2008 at $4 million? Surely there would be someone else we could get by then. Just my $.02.

BigChiefFan · 08-17-2006, 08:15 AM

He's one of the best infielder's in the game. This is a GREAT move-I'm not sure why anybody would be displeased or should I assume you PREFER Carlos Febles at 2nd base?

tyton75 · 08-17-2006, 08:15 AM

I like the move... he is a proven vet and we don't have anyone in the pipeline worth a damn to play 2nd.. maybe he can be the leader that Sweeney never was

Valiant · 08-17-2006, 08:17 AM

The guy SHOULD win the gold glove this year, with our team... He brings solid veteran leadership to the infield..

**petegz28** · 08-17-2006, 08:16 AM

the guy has committed 3 errors, plays every game and we have 1 1/2 months left of ball.

Besides he hits .275-.300 consistantly.....

TERRIBLE fuckING DECISION MOORE!

**ChiTown** · 08-17-2006, 08:17 AM

You have to have some veteran leadership on the team. That, and we don't have ANYONE in the Minors who can man down 2b everyday.

I REALLY like this move. Now, if we can dump Sweeney, Samders and Berroa, I'll be a happy man.

**RockChalk** · 08-17-2006, 08:22 AM

Don't be shocked to see this infield in 2007.
3b - Gordon, SS - Gruds, 2b - Teahen, 1b - Shealy

Great move by Dayton. Allard would've traded him to Detroit for a Class A relief pitcher. Go to a game and watch Gruds play every inning. Doesn't matter if we're up 10 or down 10, he plays at 110% and plays the game right.

**ChiTown** · 08-17-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DubbleDownBKU

Don't be shocked to see this infield in 2007.
3b - Gordon, SS - Gruds, 2b - Teahen, 1b - Shealy

Great move by Dayton. Allard would've traded him to Detroit for a Class A relief pitcher. Go to a game and watch Gruds play every inning. Doesn't matter if we're up 10 or down 10, he plays at 110% and plays the game right.

Teahen @ 2b? Wow, I don't see that happening at all. I can see Grudz sliding to SS, if we can dump Berroa.

Eleazar · 08-17-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Teahen @ 2b? Wow, I don't see that happening at all. I can see Grudz sliding to SS, if we can dump Berroa.

He's not going to move to second base. It's just internet talk.

**ChiTown** · 08-17-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

He's not going to move to second base. It's just internet talk.

Yeah, I kinda figured. I could possibly see Tehean at 1b, but that will all depend upon the development of Shealy, Gordon, and what they do with Sweeney.

Should be an interesting off-season for the KCR's.

Eleazar · 08-17-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yeah, I kinda figured. I could possibly see Tehean at 1b, but that will all depend upon the development of Shealy, Gordon, and what they do with Sweeney.

Should be an interesting off-season for the KCR's.

It's just people thinking you can move players around to any position you want and it will work at the major league level. Hey, it works on playstation, why wouldn't it?

**RockChalk** · 08-17-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Teahen @ 2b? Wow, I don't see that happening at all. I can see Grudz sliding to SS, if we can dump Berroa.

An article last week or so said this was a possibility. His old high school coach mentioned that he would be good at 2b. Unless Shealy is trade bait (which I don't think he is seeing Dayton worked hard to get him), then Teahen is got to move somewhere. 2b seems to be the easiest transition.

sedated · 08-17-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DubbleDownBKU

An article last week or so said this was a possibility. His old high school coach mentioned that he would be good at 2b. Unless Shealy is trade bait (which I don't think he is seeing Dayton worked hard to get him), then Teahen is got to move somewhere. 2b seems to be the easiest transition.

seems like it would be a waste of his arm to be at 2nd.

maybe RF?

Butler in LF?

**RockChalk** · 08-17-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

seems like it would be a waste of his arm to be at 2nd.

maybe RF?

Butler in LF?

I have a feeling Butler may be more of a DH and maybe occasionally play in RF.

With Teahen, something has got to give as far as his position goes. You can't get rid of him and Gordon appears to be better for 3rd. Ideally, one of them would go to first, but that would make the Shealy trade very strange.

Eleazar · 08-17-2006, 08:27 AM

$4 million doesn't buy you an all-star player on the open market. I'm not convinced that's so much above his market value. For a team that will likely be sorely lacking in any kind of veteran leadership after this season, it sounds like money well spent.

Isn't this what people wanted, anyways? The Royals throwing money at people who could play on playoff teams?

08-17-2006, 08:03 AM	Topic Starter
Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $5708908	Maybe GM Moore's first bad decision? Royals' Grudzielanek gets extension for 2007 Mark Grudzielanek's contract extension with the Royals is worth $4 million and includes a player option for the 2008 season at $4 million to $4.5 million, depending on plate appearances next year. It sounded like a bad idea before we knew about the player option. Now it's quite a bit worse. There wasn't a team in baseball willing to give Grudzielanek $8 million over two years last winter. His big game tonight upped his OPS to 734, but that's still down from 779 in 2004 and 741 last year. He's played in 140 games once this decade, and since he's 36, he's only likely to get more fragile. There just isn't any upside at all here. He might be a $4 million player right now, but there's nowhere for him to go but down. I like him for this year and next, but 2008 at $4 million? Surely there would be someone else we could get by then. Just my $.02.
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ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $3093962	You have to have some veteran leadership on the team. That, and we don't have ANYONE in the Minors who can man down 2b everyday. I REALLY like this move. Now, if we can dump Sweeney, Samders and Berroa, I'll be a happy man. __________________
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RockChalk Dirty Bit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake of the Woods Casino cash: $3690002	Don't be shocked to see this infield in 2007. 3b - Gordon, SS - Gruds, 2b - Teahen, 1b - Shealy Great move by Dayton. Allard would've traded him to Detroit for a Class A relief pitcher. Go to a game and watch Gruds play every inning. Doesn't matter if we're up 10 or down 10, he plays at 110% and plays the game right. __________________
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	$4 million doesn't buy you an all-star player on the open market. I'm not convinced that's so much above his market value. For a team that will likely be sorely lacking in any kind of veteran leadership after this season, it sounds like money well spent. Isn't this what people wanted, anyways? The Royals throwing money at people who could play on playoff teams? Last edited by Eleazar; 08-17-2006 at 08:39 AM..
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