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Old 12-17-2012, 07:03 PM   #1
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Toronto is absolutely without question the most talented team in that division.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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Toronto is absolutely without question the most talented team in that division.
On paper without a doubt.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #3
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Yankees are still better, but Toronto should win between 84-89 games if they stay healthy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:44 PM   #4
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Yankees are still better, but Toronto should win between 84-89 games if they stay healthy.
I disagree. Blue Jays will win more games than that, and I'm not sure they're not better than New York.

Rotations:

1) Dickey vs. Sabathia (advantage - Yankees, but Dickey is hardly a one-year wonder)
2) Josh Johnson vs. Hiroki Kuroda (advantage Blue Jays)
3) Mark Buehrle vs. Andy Pettitte (They're the same guy at this point in Pettitte's career, but Buehrle is going to stay healthy - will Pettitte?)
4) Brandon Morrow vs. Phil Hughes (advantage Blue Jays, possibly significant)
5) Ricky Romero vs. Ivan Nova (advantage Yankees, but Romero bouncing back wouldn't be a surprise at all. He was excellent in 2011)

Advantage Blue Jays.

Lineup:
Reyes
Cabrera
Bautista
Encarnacion
Lind
Lawrie
Rasmus
Arencibia
Bonifacio

vs.
Jeter
Granderson
Cano
Teixeira
Youkilis
Alex Rodriguez
Cervelli
Brett Gardner
Ichiro (oops).

Advantage there, on paper, is Blue Jays.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:43 PM   #5
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I disagree. Blue Jays will win more games than that, and I'm not sure they're not better than New York.

Rotations:

1) Dickey vs. Sabathia (advantage - Yankees, but Dickey is hardly a one-year wonder)
2) Josh Johnson vs. Hiroki Kuroda (advantage Blue Jays)
3) Mark Buehrle vs. Andy Pettitte (They're the same guy at this point in Pettitte's career, but Buehrle is going to stay healthy - will Pettitte?)
4) Brandon Morrow vs. Phil Hughes (advantage Blue Jays, possibly significant)
5) Ricky Romero vs. Ivan Nova (advantage Yankees, but Romero bouncing back wouldn't be a surprise at all. He was excellent in 2011)

Advantage Blue Jays.

Lineup:
Reyes
Cabrera
Bautista
Encarnacion
Lind
Lawrie
Rasmus
Arencibia
Bonifacio

vs.
Jeter
Granderson
Cano
Teixeira
Youkilis
Alex Rodriguez
Cervelli
Brett Gardner
Ichiro (oops).

Advantage there, on paper, is Blue Jays.

I'll take the Yanks lineup any day. The rotations are pretty similar now. Let's see about the bullpens. The Blue Jays don't really have any great relievers, the Yanks always seem to. No doubt the gap is narrowed significantly but until the Yanks don't win 95 games, I'll assume they will continue to do so.
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:33 AM   #6
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I'll take the Yanks lineup any day. The rotations are pretty similar now. Let's see about the bullpens. The Blue Jays don't really have any great relievers, the Yanks always seem to. No doubt the gap is narrowed significantly but until the Yanks don't win 95 games, I'll assume they will continue to do so.
I might take the Yankees lineup (though it's close), but I'll take the Jays rotation for sure right now.

As for bullpens, the fact that Casey Janssen isn't well known in the States doesn't mean he isn't a great reliever. He's been fantastic for a while now. I hope Darren Oliver decides not to retire...if he comes back, the pen would be excellent.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #7
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I'll take the Yanks lineup any day. The rotations are pretty similar now. Let's see about the bullpens. The Blue Jays don't really have any great relievers, the Yanks always seem to. No doubt the gap is narrowed significantly but until the Yanks don't win 95 games, I'll assume they will continue to do so.
Definitely Wickedson.

The Yankees are a bunch of dying old hounds. They'll be fortunate to win 90.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:28 AM   #8
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Definitely Wickedson.

The Yankees are a bunch of dying old hounds. They'll be fortunate to win 90.
Heh, he outed himself the day he was mumbling about endowments.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #9
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The Yankees still don't have a catcher, but isn't Ichiro in their OF now?

And ARod isn't even going to play until July if he does at all, so I'm not sure I'd really count him right now.
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The Yankees still don't have a catcher, but isn't Ichiro in their OF now?

And ARod isn't even going to play until July if he does at all, so I'm not sure I'd really count him right now.
That's what I get for going off of MLB.com depth chart. Is Ichiro's deal finalized? I missed that.
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That's what I get for going off of MLB.com depth chart. Is Ichiro's deal finalized? I missed that.
Not sure, but he's definitely been reported as signed. He's pretty suspect himself at this point in his career for a starting RF, but yeah, better than Dickerson.
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who do the Orioles have to compete with these teams now

Chris Davis?

maybe Brian Roberts will play more than 10 games this year

hopefully one of these nobody pitchers they have might sniff a game against the Blue Jays 6th rotational man
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