Chiefs The Myths of Why We Shouldn't Play Croyle..

**petegz28** · 10-10-2010, 07:25 PM

Myth #1: He will just get hurt.

If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then?

Myth #2: He is 0-9 as a starter so he can't do the job.

What ****ing job? Hand the ball off? What is it that Cassel does that makes some think Brodie can't do the same if not better?

Nevermind that 8 of Croyle's losses came behind one of the worst offensive lines in Chiefs history with absolutely 0 pass protection and 0 running game.

The 1 game Brodie started under Haley he did ok in until late. I firmly believe had he had more time with the starters the 4 TD's he overthrew against Baltimore would have turned out different

Myth #3: He isn't the long term answer.

I agree, but neither is ****ing Cassel. As much as I like what we are doing right now is actually not a bad time to change QB's.

When it comes down to it you have to look at things this year. Cassel has taken 2 sacks in 4 games. Meaning the O-line is much better in protection and we have a great running game to help him. Croyle, while not a long term answer, can actually throw the ****ing ball with some zip on it for more than 5 yards.

**DeezNutz** · 10-10-2010, 07:26 PM

Why are you worried about QB play, pete?

We have a solid D and run game, and these are more important.

Pablo · 10-10-2010, 07:27 PM

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**petegz28** · 10-10-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Why are you worried about QB play, pete?

We have a solid D and run game, and these are more important.

I would like at least average QB play. I think that is just a minimum on any team. With our defense and running game an average QB would suffice for the time being.

Marcellus · 10-10-2010, 07:27 PM

Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.

At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

**Bugeater** · 10-10-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Myth #1: He will just get hurt.

If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then?

Because Brodie coming and playing a game or two is completely different from benching Cassel and making him a starter. He'll get hurt eventually, then we will be back to where we started and have no viable backup. It simply won't accomplish anything.

**Bane** · 10-10-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

Trade Bowe and a bag of Arthur Bryant's to Miami for Thigpen.

BRING BACK HOPE.

**petegz28** · 10-10-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.

At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

I never said he was "special". But considering the alternative he doesn't look so bad if you ask me.

Deberg_1990 · 10-10-2010, 07:29 PM

we have 3 backup QB's on our team...It doesnt matter who starts and Cassel has proven he can stay healthy.

**DeezNutz** · 10-10-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I would like at least average QB play. I think that is just a minimum on any team. With our defense and running game an average QB would suffice for the time being.

Define "suffice"? It's entirely possible that we're going to take our current sack of shit to the post season. Could we win it all with "average"?

**DaFace** · 10-10-2010, 07:30 PM

I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.

Pablo · 10-10-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth.

How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him.

He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got.

At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.

Sounds an awful lot like our #1 QB, except for the whole throwing the ball hard thing.

suds79 · 10-10-2010, 07:31 PM

Fact #1: Matt Cassel is Scott Pioli's guy... At least for this year.

**DeezNutz** · 10-10-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.

Like in preseason, when he was hurt, again?

He's more talented than Cassel, for sure, but I don't think Croyle is an NFL player, as I've said numerous times.

**petegz28** · 10-10-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Define "suffice"? It's entirely possible that we're going to take our current sack of shit to the post season. Could we win it all with "average"?

If the defense and running game continue as they have then I think "average" would give us a better shot than Cassel.

10-10-2010, 07:25 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2814127	The Myths of Why We Shouldn't Play Croyle.. Myth #1: He will just get hurt. If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then? Myth #2: He is 0-9 as a starter so he can't do the job. What **ing job? Hand the ball off? What is it that Cassel does that makes some think Brodie can't do the same if not better? Nevermind that 8 of Croyle's losses came behind one of the worst offensive lines in Chiefs history with absolutely 0 pass protection and 0 running game. The 1 game Brodie started under Haley he did ok in until late. I firmly believe had he had more time with the starters the 4 TD's he overthrew against Baltimore would have turned out different Myth #3: He isn't the long term answer. I agree, but neither is ing Cassel. As much as I like what we are doing right now is actually not a bad time to change QB's. When it comes down to it you have to look at things this year. Cassel has taken 2 sacks in 4 games. Meaning the O-line is much better in protection and we have a great running game to help him. Croyle, while not a long term answer, can actually throw the **ing ball with some zip on it for more than 5 yards.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3102662	Croyle being 0-9 as a starter isn't a myth. How about this, the guy has never been impressive. He isn't accurate he isn't mobile. I say that as a person who rooted like hell for him after we drafted him. He throws the ball hard. That's all he has got. At this point I don't give a shit, start him but he is nothing special.
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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2046899	I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.
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