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**CosmicPal** · 04-17-2005, 06:21 PM

Interesting subject: Should parents allow their kids to drink in their homes under their adult supervision.

I have to agree with the parent who allowed his son to throw a party just as long as everyone knew they weren't driving home and that he was there to supervise it.

On the other hand, it is illegal for teens to drink- and he was after all- supporting underage drinking. I, for one, appreciate what he did since he knew the teenagers would then all go to the beach and drink and all drive home...

I know there are a lot of parents on the planet- how do you feel about this?

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-17-2005, 06:57 PM

Tough one, no doubt. I'd like to see us become more European in our view/use of alcohol.....(libs, mark this day down...heh.)

However, as long as it's against the law, I can't imagine undermining that by serving my own kids alcohol until they are "of age" under any circumstances (outside a sip of wine at a Holiday dinner or something like that.)

**Rausch** · 04-17-2005, 07:13 PM

It isn't illegal to serve minors alcohol if you're their legal gaurdian and it's in the home. It's also legal (in small amounts) in religous ceremonies (communion, etc.)

Now, that's a far cry from letting your kid throw a party, but there is a difference...

**Bob Dole** · 04-17-2005, 07:47 PM

Through two different sets of teenagers, Bob Dole has taken the "allow them to drink sometimes at home" approach.

They were going to do it anyway. Doing it at home allowed Bob Dole some oversight.

jettio · 04-17-2005, 08:10 PM

We touched on this a couple of years ago, get the organ donor cards filled out, keep the do-gooder parents out of it, let the kids loose, and get some of those annoying organ needing hospital patients back on the streets.

KCWolfman · 04-17-2005, 08:58 PM

I dunno. I understand a kid drinking at their parent's house. I don't understand a parent risking their freedom for a kid that doesn't belong to them without their parent's permission just so you can look cool to your own kids.

Valiant · 04-17-2005, 09:10 PM

Im all for it.. Either have a parent supervise

or

kids do it anyway without supervision, and then have sex, do drugs, or commit a felony...

you decide...

KCWolfman · 04-17-2005, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant

Im all for it.. Either have a parent supervise

or

kids do it anyway without supervision, and then have sex, do drugs, or commit a felony...

you decide...

Do you realize how many people's lives you are talking about here? When you allow someone other than your own children to drink on your property, you have decided to become their parent without their parent's permission. You have also decided that you can tell when every single kid there has reached his limit and you have decided you can stay up all night and watch every single kid until you are positive beyond any doubt that every single one leaving is sober.

Again, if a parent wants to let their kid drink at home, that is probably a smart way to start them, to watch them, to guide them, and to show them their own limitations. However, I don't see how one adult has the right to assume that responsibility for other peoples' children.

Demonpenz · 04-17-2005, 10:51 PM

Half the fun is sneaking around to hide the shit.

Simplex3 · 04-17-2005, 10:58 PM

My dad cured me of drinking and smoking on a float trip when I was 7. The rocking of the boat, the fact that he didn't tell me to not inhale the cigar smoke...

I don't think I even finished one beer. I puked multiple times. I was sick for 12 hours. I didn't drink until I was 23.

As for the party:

Hell no. What about the parents that didn't know? I'd be furious if I found out my kid was spending the night somewhere and the parents let them drink. And it's against the law. "Don't worry son, you can pick and choose the laws you want to follow."

Frazod · 04-17-2005, 11:07 PM

When I was a kid, there was a basement not unlike the Foreman's basement on That 70's Show where we hung out sometimes and drank and smoked. The parents knew and didn't care. Unforunately, the kid who lived there was a dick, and I didn't like him. So I didn't go over there all that much.

But we were certainly safer there than when we simply drove around getting hammered because we didn't have anywhere to go.

KCWolfman · 04-17-2005, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

When I was a kid, there was a basement not unlike the Foreman's basement on That 70's Show where we hung out sometimes and drank and smoked. The parents knew and didn't care. Unforunately, the kid who lived there was a dick, and I didn't like him. So I didn't go over there all that much.

But we were certainly safer there than when we simply drove around getting hammered because we didn't have anywhere to go.

Drunk kids don't stay put. If they did, they wouldn't have the highest death rate on the highways today.

**CosmicPal** · 04-17-2005, 11:09 PM

My parents traveled quite a bit- often leaving us with the house.

They often told us that they didn't want us smoking, drinking, and doing drugs, but that they understood they couldn't control what went outside the house. They pleaded with us that if we ever got drunk to not drive home- or better yet- call them and they would pick us up.

I did just that one night in high school. Called my parents at 2AM drunk off my azz. They didn't appreciate the fact I was hammered, but they did make me one hell of a breakfast in the morning and thanked me for calling them.

Well, while one of my parents were out of town- my sister and I threw a bash. One of my buddies was hammered and wanted to drive home- I pleaded with him to stay, but he was like 6-2 and 200 lbs back then. So, against everyone elses pleas at the party, I called his parents and told them it would be best for them to pick him up since I wasn't going to let him drive home. His parents were freakin' elated! They were so proud of me that they just HAD to tell my parents. Dammit.

Anyways, the reason why I'm bringing this up is there is an alternative to teenage drinking and that is doing what my parents did for us- talking to your kids and letting them know that it's okay to call them if you get too *****ed up. What are you consequences- a grounding? Big deal. It's often better than being dead.

Frazod · 04-17-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Drunk kids don't stay put. If they did, they wouldn't have the highest death rate on the highways today.

God knows I didn't. I couldn't even tell you how many times I drove home completely obliterated. I suppose I'm lucky (a) to be alive and (b) that I never killed anybody else.

I was certainly safer when I could get hammered and actually spend the night at the place I did my drinking.

jcroft · 04-17-2005, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Interesting subject: Should parents allow their kids to drink in their homes under their adult supervision.

I have to agree with the parent who allowed his son to throw a party just as long as everyone knew they weren't driving home and that he was there to supervise it.

On the other hand, it is illegal for teens to drink- and he was after all- supporting underage drinking. I, for one, appreciate what he did since he knew the teenagers would then all go to the beach and drink and all drive home...

I know there are a lot of parents on the planet- how do you feel about this?

For me, it's an issue of law vs. morals. Morally, I'd feel fine about letting my nearly-adult children drink moderatley under my roof and in my supervision. But, it's aganist the law and you run the risk of getting busted for it. As such, I probably wouldn't do it -- even though it's "okay" within my personal morals.

One thing that I think is NOT morally okay is to let OTHER people's kids drink in my house. That's my biggest propblem with the parents that do this -- usually it's not just their kids, they're hosting a party full of kids whose parents aren't aware they are drinking.

04-17-2005, 06:21 PM
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	60 Minutes - D.A. Paul Morrison Was On... Interesting subject: Should parents allow their kids to drink in their homes under their adult supervision. I have to agree with the parent who allowed his son to throw a party just as long as everyone knew they weren't driving home and that he was there to supervise it. On the other hand, it is illegal for teens to drink- and he was after all- supporting underage drinking. I, for one, appreciate what he did since he knew the teenagers would then all go to the beach and drink and all drive home... I know there are a lot of parents on the planet- how do you feel about this?
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04-17-2005, 06:57 PM	#2
Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $5895285	Tough one, no doubt. I'd like to see us become more European in our view/use of alcohol.....(libs, mark this day down...heh.) However, as long as it's against the law, I can't imagine undermining that by serving my own kids alcohol until they are "of age" under any circumstances (outside a sip of wine at a Holiday dinner or something like that.) __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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04-17-2005, 07:47 PM	#4
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $2604497	Through two different sets of teenagers, Bob Dole has taken the "allow them to drink sometimes at home" approach. They were going to do it anyway. Doing it at home allowed Bob Dole some oversight.
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04-17-2005, 08:10 PM	#5
jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $5064930	We touched on this a couple of years ago, get the organ donor cards filled out, keep the do-gooder parents out of it, let the kids loose, and get some of those annoying organ needing hospital patients back on the streets. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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04-17-2005, 08:58 PM	#6
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I dunno. I understand a kid drinking at their parent's house. I don't understand a parent risking their freedom for a kid that doesn't belong to them without their parent's permission just so you can look cool to your own kids. __________________ How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! Samuel Adams
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04-17-2005, 09:10 PM	#7
Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6432380	Im all for it.. Either have a parent supervise or kids do it anyway without supervision, and then have sex, do drugs, or commit a felony... you decide...
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04-17-2005, 10:51 PM	#9
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04-17-2005, 10:58 PM	#10
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	My dad cured me of drinking and smoking on a float trip when I was 7. The rocking of the boat, the fact that he didn't tell me to not inhale the cigar smoke... I don't think I even finished one beer. I puked multiple times. I was sick for 12 hours. I didn't drink until I was 23. As for the party: Hell no. What about the parents that didn't know? I'd be furious if I found out my kid was spending the night somewhere and the parents let them drink. And it's against the law. "Don't worry son, you can pick and choose the laws you want to follow."
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04-17-2005, 11:07 PM	#11
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3145085	When I was a kid, there was a basement not unlike the Foreman's basement on That 70's Show where we hung out sometimes and drank and smoked. The parents knew and didn't care. Unforunately, the kid who lived there was a dick, and I didn't like him. So I didn't go over there all that much. But we were certainly safer there than when we simply drove around getting hammered because we didn't have anywhere to go.
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04-17-2005, 11:09 PM	#13
CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	My parents traveled quite a bit- often leaving us with the house. They often told us that they didn't want us smoking, drinking, and doing drugs, but that they understood they couldn't control what went outside the house. They pleaded with us that if we ever got drunk to not drive home- or better yet- call them and they would pick us up. I did just that one night in high school. Called my parents at 2AM drunk off my azz. They didn't appreciate the fact I was hammered, but they did make me one hell of a breakfast in the morning and thanked me for calling them. Well, while one of my parents were out of town- my sister and I threw a bash. One of my buddies was hammered and wanted to drive home- I pleaded with him to stay, but he was like 6-2 and 200 lbs back then. So, against everyone elses pleas at the party, I called his parents and told them it would be best for them to pick him up since I wasn't going to let him drive home. His parents were freakin' elated! They were so proud of me that they just HAD to tell my parents. Dammit. Anyways, the reason why I'm bringing this up is there is an alternative to teenage drinking and that is doing what my parents did for us- talking to your kids and letting them know that it's okay to call them if you get too ****ed up. What are you consequences- a grounding? Big deal. It's often better than being dead. __________________ - - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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