28 Vets want out of KC??Sims Bashes KC/Herm

KC4EVER · 06-21-2007, 03:55 PM

NFL I BUCCANEERS

Ex-Chief battles bad rap
Defensive tackle Ryan Sims is grateful for fresh start with Tampa Bay

By TOM BALOG

tom.balog@heraldtribune.com

TAMPA -- Ryan Sims should have become the Warren Sapp of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Instead, he has wound up as a larger, younger, version of Anthony McFarland with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- a retread defensive tackle battling a history of injury and lethargy.

The former No.6 overall pick of the 2002 NFL draft is fighting for a roster spot with the Buccaneers.

For now, the most mammoth presence among the Buccaneers' nine defensive tackles in mini-camp at 6-foot-4, 315 pounds, Sims is welcomed with open arms.

"Ryan Sims is working hard, a big fellow in the middle who's going to help us on our run (defense)," Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin said. "I think you have to give people a second opportunity. It didn't work out in Kansas City for whatever reason. It didn't work out for Chris Hovan (in Minnesota). It didn't work out for (Greg) Spires (in Cleveland and New England). It didn't work out for Simeon Rice (in Arizona)."

Sims did little more in five seasons with the Chiefs than give the team reason to jump at the chance to unload him.

The Bucs sent an undisclosed draft pick to Kansas City to acquire Sims on May 1.

Tuesday, Sims blasted Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards, the former Bucs defensive backs coach, for creating what Sims perceives as a negative environment in Edwards' first year in Kansas City in 2006.

"Some coaches just believe the more negative you are ... You don't have a team of 28 guys trying to get traded for nothing," Sims said. "Every starter there is trying to get out of there. ... Look at it. Ask (quarterback) Trent Green (traded to the Miami Dolphins) about it.

"You can just look at the numbers, look at the morale, you tell me.

"We had the 32nd (ranked) defense when I got there, it was 32nd for years. Obviously I'm not the only person out there.

"I'm here. These coaches are great. It's totally different. Very positive here. It's time for a new lease, time to play."

The Bucs are betting little that Sims can shed the two raps against him -- that he became a first-round prospect at North Carolina only because he played alongside Julius Peppers. And second, that he became complacent after he was given a reported $9.75 million signing bonus by the Chiefs.

Tampa Bay, which reportedly restructured Sims' contract, wants to see the 2003 Ryan Sims, who posted 83 tackles and three sacks in 16 starts at nose tackle. Or the 2004 Ryan Sims who made 30 tackles and two sacks in 13 starts for Kansas City.

Or the 2001 Ryan Sims who posted five sacks and 51 tackles as a senior for the Tar Heels.

Sims is better known for being inactive for 10 games in 2005 with a sprained right foot and playing only six games his rookie year before a dislocated elbow sent him to the injured reserve list.

"He's got to be Ryan Sims, OK? He's got to be the guy he was at North Carolina and at times in Kansas City," said Bucs head coach Jon Gruden. "He's had some injuries. For whatever reason, he hasn't produced to the standards I think people expected. But he's got another opportunity now."

Early indications are that Sims is taking advantage of this new lease on life in the NFL.

"He's a big strong, powerful guy, highly motivated right now," said Bucs defensive line coach Larry Coyer. "Sometimes you get a new opportunity in life, that happens.

"He's a different kind of defensive lineman, him and (Kevin) Carter both (6-foot-6, 305) than we've played with here. Big, powerful men, hard to move. It's been really impressive out here. We'll see when the (training) camp comes, but he's really stepped up, though."

"They love defense here, period. They've got a history of defense. They love defensive lineman," Sims said. "This is a big opportunity. My goal is to start. I didn't come here to be a backup. I don't think anybody came here to be a backup. That's what I'm doing every day, trying to be a starter."

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Hammock Parties · 06-21-2007, 03:56 PM

Man. Sour grapes.

**Dartgod** · 06-21-2007, 03:58 PM

What a piece of shit. I don't wish injuries on anyone, but I would laugh my ass off if he blew out both knees on the first play of the regular season.

Hard working? Motivated?

Give me a ****ing break!

big nasty kcnut · 06-21-2007, 03:59 PM

What happen sims did herm took your krispy creame donuts away from you.

blueballs · 06-21-2007, 03:59 PM

Florida humidity
Sims love of pastry
not good

Sanka · 06-21-2007, 04:00 PM

I hope he does well, so that we could get a decent pick in return for his fat ass.

Ebolapox · 06-21-2007, 04:02 PM

sims can go fuck himself. seriously--the piece of sh*t did nothing here and it was somebody else's fault?!?

keg in kc · 06-21-2007, 04:03 PM

Something tells me "negative" is not a word attributable to Edwards.

Perhaps poor lil Ryan-poo couldn't handle being told he needed to produce or he wouldn't have a job.

It also wouldn't completely shock me if 28 of Vermeil's coddled vets wanted out. Change has come, you actually have to produce to play.

Poor, poor guys.

bobbything · 06-21-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Something tells me "negative" is not a word attributable to Edwards.

Perhaps poor lil Ryan-poo couldn't handle being told he needed to produce or he wouldn't have a job.

It also wouldn't completely shock me if 28 of Vermeil's coddled vets wanted out. Change has come, you actually have to produce to play.

Poor, poor guys.

I was in River Falls for 3 days last season. Edwards is anything but negative.

Maybe Sims should stop bitching about having to play for Edwards and look back at how well he faired in his 4 previous seasons under a different coach.

My guess is that: he sucked shit before Edwards got here, he sucked shit when Edwards did get here, and he's going to suck shit in Tampa.

Good luck to him though.

big nasty kcnut · 06-21-2007, 04:04 PM

I could see sims crying to his agent they took my donuts away i wasn't doing anything wrong. Just cause i was eating them in front of tony g. while he was working out doesn't mean i was doing anything wrong.

FAX · 06-21-2007, 04:04 PM

Hmmm, these tidbits regarding the vets wanting out of KC keep emerging.

It reminds one of the old saying that, where there's smoke, there's a burning rash on the wang.

FAX

plbrdude · 06-21-2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

Hmmm, these tidbits regarding the vets wanting out of KC keep emerging.

It reminds one of the old saying that, where there's smoke, there's a burning rash on the wang.

FAX

and that can't be good

Logical · 06-21-2007, 06:32 PM

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Tampa Bay, which reportedly restructured Sims' contract, wants to see the 2003 Ryan Sims, who posted 83 tackles and three sacks in 16 starts at nose tackle.

Did I blackout and completely miss this year for Ryan Sims? WTF

bogie · 06-21-2007, 04:04 PM

Kiss my ass Sims. See ya.

06-21-2007, 04:15 PM

Ryan played for Edwards one season. What's his excuse for the rest of his life?

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KC4EVER It's Been Too Long! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $10004900	28 Vets want out of KC??Sims Bashes KC/Herm NFL I BUCCANEERS Ex-Chief battles bad rap Defensive tackle Ryan Sims is grateful for fresh start with Tampa Bay By TOM BALOG tom.balog@heraldtribune.com TAMPA -- Ryan Sims should have become the Warren Sapp of the Kansas City Chiefs. Instead, he has wound up as a larger, younger, version of Anthony McFarland with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- a retread defensive tackle battling a history of injury and lethargy. The former No.6 overall pick of the 2002 NFL draft is fighting for a roster spot with the Buccaneers. For now, the most mammoth presence among the Buccaneers' nine defensive tackles in mini-camp at 6-foot-4, 315 pounds, Sims is welcomed with open arms. "Ryan Sims is working hard, a big fellow in the middle who's going to help us on our run (defense)," Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin said. "I think you have to give people a second opportunity. It didn't work out in Kansas City for whatever reason. It didn't work out for Chris Hovan (in Minnesota). It didn't work out for (Greg) Spires (in Cleveland and New England). It didn't work out for Simeon Rice (in Arizona)." Sims did little more in five seasons with the Chiefs than give the team reason to jump at the chance to unload him. The Bucs sent an undisclosed draft pick to Kansas City to acquire Sims on May 1. Tuesday, Sims blasted Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards, the former Bucs defensive backs coach, for creating what Sims perceives as a negative environment in Edwards' first year in Kansas City in 2006. "Some coaches just believe the more negative you are ... You don't have a team of 28 guys trying to get traded for nothing," Sims said. "Every starter there is trying to get out of there. ... Look at it. Ask (quarterback) Trent Green (traded to the Miami Dolphins) about it. "You can just look at the numbers, look at the morale, you tell me. "We had the 32nd (ranked) defense when I got there, it was 32nd for years. Obviously I'm not the only person out there. "I'm here. These coaches are great. It's totally different. Very positive here. It's time for a new lease, time to play." The Bucs are betting little that Sims can shed the two raps against him -- that he became a first-round prospect at North Carolina only because he played alongside Julius Peppers. And second, that he became complacent after he was given a reported $9.75 million signing bonus by the Chiefs. Tampa Bay, which reportedly restructured Sims' contract, wants to see the 2003 Ryan Sims, who posted 83 tackles and three sacks in 16 starts at nose tackle. Or the 2004 Ryan Sims who made 30 tackles and two sacks in 13 starts for Kansas City. Or the 2001 Ryan Sims who posted five sacks and 51 tackles as a senior for the Tar Heels. Sims is better known for being inactive for 10 games in 2005 with a sprained right foot and playing only six games his rookie year before a dislocated elbow sent him to the injured reserve list. "He's got to be Ryan Sims, OK? He's got to be the guy he was at North Carolina and at times in Kansas City," said Bucs head coach Jon Gruden. "He's had some injuries. For whatever reason, he hasn't produced to the standards I think people expected. But he's got another opportunity now." Early indications are that Sims is taking advantage of this new lease on life in the NFL. "He's a big strong, powerful guy, highly motivated right now," said Bucs defensive line coach Larry Coyer. "Sometimes you get a new opportunity in life, that happens. "He's a different kind of defensive lineman, him and (Kevin) Carter both (6-foot-6, 305) than we've played with here. Big, powerful men, hard to move. It's been really impressive out here. We'll see when the (training) camp comes, but he's really stepped up, though." "They love defense here, period. They've got a history of defense. They love defensive lineman," Sims said. "This is a big opportunity. My goal is to start. I didn't come here to be a backup. I don't think anybody came here to be a backup. That's what I'm doing every day, trying to be a starter." http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...10801/-1/RSS06
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big nasty kcnut The pizza king of kansas Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Somewhere in the u.s.a. Casino cash: $1520900	I could see sims crying to his agent they took my donuts away i wasn't doing anything wrong. Just cause i was eating them in front of tony g. while he was working out doesn't mean i was doing anything wrong. __________________ When it's grim, be the grim reaper and go get it. Adopt a chiefs Travis Kelce. You woke up the wrong mother****er!
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