ghosts

[Thig Lyfe]

are they real

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

My Grandma, very religious...

no offense at ALL to those who are religious--more power to you (just keep it to yourself, thank you very much), but they're just as prone as the rest of us are to believing some weird shit and being tricked by our brains.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Fish

I used to do quite a bit of the ghost hunting, overnight stuff. And always came away disappointed. Never saw, heard, or felt a damn thing that was unexplained. Even when told beforehand that I was guaranteed to have an "Experience"...

I'm convinced that part of it is our natural reaction and expectations to the spooky. as previously mentioned, we're wired a certain way, to recognize certain patterns. the fact that we SEE them does NOT mean that it's spooky--it could very well be pure coincidence.

[B_Ambuehl]

I have some relatives that own a house that has some strange stuff that goes on occassionally. I had heard talk they could often hear people walking around upstairs when no one was there, but I brushed it off as nothing. One day I was there by myself in the dining room and vividly heard someone come in from the garage door and loudly walk up the stairs. I thought it must be my nephew as he gets out of school at 3 and it was 3:15. I got up to get something to drink and all the sudden my nephew comes in the garage door. I'm like, "didn't you come in just a few minutes ago??" He says, "No I just got here." I went upstairs to check and nothing was there. So who was that I heard coming in a few minutes earlier? No idea.

I stayed the night over there several times sleeping in an upstairs room. I always noticed this particular room seemed to stay extremely cold. In the winter the rest of the house would be warm and that room would be so cold I'd have to wear a jacket to sleep. One night I was sleeping there and was woken by something crushing my chest making it impossible to breathe. At first I thought my nephew had come in and was messing with me, but when I finally fought it off nothing was there. I am familiar with sleep paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis) and mentally chalked it up as that. However, not 2 minutes later, when i'd just closed my eyes to go back to sleep, it happened AGAIN! It felt like something very very strong pinning my arms back against the bed and sitting on my chest. I couldn't breathe and couldn't move. I couldn't get it off. All the sudden i remembered reading something about how the word "god" is to evil spirits what garlic is to vampires. I said the word "god" and all the sudden whatever was there vanished. Pretty scary.

I never said anything to anyone about that episode because I didn't want to create paranoia and as far as I know nothing else like that has happened. The house was built in 2000 and they've lived there since 2005 so I doubt anyone died there or anything so not sure what is going on.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

All the sudden i remembered reading something about how the word "god" is to evil spirits what garlic is to vampires.

If garlic works on vampires, then why not this?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Go ahead, fess up, you were messing with her weren't you?

LOL, can't take credit for it. I did tease her a bit after the fact, though.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

I'm convinced that part of it is our natural reaction and expectations to the spooky. as previously mentioned, we're wired a certain way, to recognize certain patterns. the fact that we SEE them does NOT mean that it's spooky--it could very well be pure coincidence.

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

tell me... not to be an asshole, but was she buried in something a woman normally wouldn't wear? did she have a mohawk? you know, did she not fit the archetype of what a woman looks like? if so, I'll be impressed. otherwise, if she fits into the pattern of what women typically look like, it's very easy to attribute it to the normal pattern recognition that our brains are hardwired for.

is it possible you saw something? I can't rule anything out. but I'm inclined to use occam's razor for all situations like this... the simplest explanation is often the correct explanation; and the simplest explanation is that human minds are hardwired to recognize certain patterns and certain archetypes, and that we're not infallible (aka, memory isn't always precise).

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

tell me... not to be an asshole, but was she buried in something a woman normally wouldn't wear? did she have a mohawk? you know, did she not fit the archetype of what a woman looks like? if so, I'll be impressed. otherwise, if she fits into the pattern of what women typically look like, it's very easy to attribute it to the normal pattern recognition that our brains are hardwired for.

It was a very old timey for when she died, which would have been about ’70-71, but besides what she was wearing I could see her face and it was definately what I saw in a picture some time later.

I’ve told the below story before so I’ll just copy and paste it from the My Ghost Story topic.

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Ok, so the place I’m talking about is on their land, they own a good sized chunk of land just north of Grand Lake of the Cherokees. The back side of their land is actually her parent’s old land which she inherited and they as a couple have added too.
As we were walking around their land one day my cousin tells me a story I remember his mom telling my parents back when my cousin and I were just kids and it goes like this.
They were staying at her parent’s place one night when my cousin’s Teddy Ruxbin started going off. Just out of the blue started talking, going through its normal recorded routine and wouldn’t shut up waking up my cousin and his mom. He said his mom picked it up and flipped it over to look in the battery compartment, did a double take then flipped the thing back over and looked at it all the while this thing continues going off. She then walked outside with it and my cousin said he drifted back off to sleep only to wake up when she came back inside. When he asked where his Teddy Ruxbin was she said, “When I went to take the batteries out there were none so I started a fire and burned it.”

On a side note it’s always cracked me up that she killed it with fire.

[Backwards Masking]

i have three ghosts in stay in contact with via Ouija Board that follow me wherever I happen to move to

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I think it's something your mind has to be open to, some what(children). It's not a physical thing like an alien, bigfoot or a Chiefs' Lamar Hunt trophy.

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

I think it's something your mind has to be open to, some what(children). It's not a physical thing like an alien, bigfoot or a Chiefs' Lamar Hunt trophy.

sometimes my wiener gets hard and i dont know how, is ghosts involved???

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

I'm of the belief (both as a skeptical molecular geneticist and as a lay person) that there are things we don't understand. is it possible that the things that are seen/felt/heard are ACTUALLY supernatural? I doubt it. is it possible that they're manifestations of some sort of energy that we don't know of? sure, why not? remember, einstein tells us that all matter is energy. when you die, it's possible that some imprint of you is left behind in the form of energy. will we figure it out soon? who the hell knows?

but the idea that people believe what they want to believe and see what they want to see is absolutely true from an evolutionary standpoint... read Michael Shermer's 'The Believing Brain.' it goes into great depth on the supernatural, facial recognition, pattern recognition, etc. in other words, MANY things that are complete nonsense/coincidence get interpreted as 'spooky' because we, evolutionarily, recognize certain patterns for our survival as a species. cool stuff.

I actually came from a very skeptical background...it took a lot to convince me.

I don't come into any investigation with a predetermined mindset or notion...hell there's a lot of times we don't experience anything or get any evidence.

I understand the concepts you speak of and I'm sure that does happen a lot a but me personally, it doesn't apply...I'm open to the phenomena being paranormal or explainable, I go by the evidence.

[Lumpy]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

sometimes my wiener gets hard and i dont know how, is ghosts involved???

This actually brings up an interesting point, (pun intended, heh). You could be sitting on the toilet, having happy fun time with your SO, having touchy time with yourself, etc. and ghosts see it all.

I'm not sure if they'll help you wipe your ass, give you a push or a hand though... but they're definitely watching.

Scary stuff.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

They were staying at her parent’s place one night when my cousin’s Teddy Ruxbin started going off. Just out of the blue started talking, going through its normal recorded routine and wouldn’t shut up waking up my cousin and his mom. He said his mom picked it up and flipped it over to look in the battery compartment, did a double take then flipped the thing back over and looked at it all the while this thing continues going off. She then walked outside with it and my cousin said he drifted back off to sleep only to wake up when she came back inside. When he asked where his Teddy Ruxbin was she said, “When I went to take the batteries out there were none so I started a fire and burned it.”

I saw that movie. It was called Child's Play.

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I think I was about 8 when I saw the previous owner of my parent’s house, she died in the house after building it herself and raising her family in it.
I’d never seen a picture of the lady before so there’s no logical reason for my mind to go there, yet there she staring around a corner at me.
I know it was her because later on I met an old lady neighbor that knew the previous owner and showed me a picture of them together. I described what she was wearing and neighbor lady said that’s what she was buried in, which were also her favorite Sunday church clothes.
Other incidents that happened in that house, cold spots, doors opening and closing by themselves, sounds of someone walking around, can be put off to it being an old drafty house, but not seeing her myself. I can still vividly picture her some 38 years later.

Had a similar experience on an investigation at a private residence once and it was one of the most chillings things I've been a part of in doing this....

We had a couple contact us because they had been experiencing some odd things and they said their 8 year old had talked about seeing a woman repeatedly...well we investigate and nothing particularly odd happpened. However the next day we spoke with the family again and had a guy in our group who's an excellent sketch artist pull the boy to the side along with the father just to ensure and validate no coercion took place from our end.

Well he comes back after a while with a pretty damn detailed drawing of a woman in an old style, early 1900s style dress. It was amazing to see the detail and ability to describe this kid gave us.

The mother about lost her shit because she swore it looked like an old relative she remembered in a picture but there were no old pictures in their residence.

I get a call the next day from said lady freaking the **** out and hysterical wanting me to come over to her mothers house...she had something to show me. Sure enough at her moms was a picture of the woman's great grandmother and damn if the two weren't nearly identical sans the clothing (she was wearing something different in the photo). I instantly got goosebumps and started shaking...it rocked me because unless these two coached their kid on exactly what to describe step for step and were lying to us, which wouldn't make any sense, it was pretty compelling evidence. They didn't have any pictures like this in their home and both were adamant their son had never seen the mother's great grandma.

That freaked me out probably more than any other paranormal experience I've ever had.